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So you claim that increasing taxes increases civil unrest? What do you base this claim on? The countries with high taxes do not tend to be the countries that ha

So you claim that increasing taxes increases civil unrest? What do you base this claim on? The countries with high taxes do not tend to be the countries that have a lot of civil unrest, low tax countries on the other hand... While that does not imply causation, it is food for thought I would say.

kkfx 4y ago
No, I claim increasing prices without increasing wages provoke unrest, and you can see that everywhere in the very present world. Taxes MUST BE a means to redistribute richness to avoid deepening too much the fork between richest and poorest, but for that money MUST BE a public value-less unit of measure of almost any substrate while actual money are private game, substrate of anything, and so taxes are ways to fund states that actually are just slaves of private central banks, that until some politicians decide that enough is enough and instead to play the right way organize a coup to arrest and devastate such privates criminals overnight manu militari publishing a small advise in the early morning: "anyone still fee can confess publicly it's crime against humanity in the next days or face revenge simply knowing a thing: Democracy does bring human rights, and such rights does not serve only to protect poor against riches but to protect any human being against anyone else, without substantial democracy there are no human rights so the old sword way still apply when used, against anyone, mercyless". Not something likely to happen in short times anyway. About taxes no, Sweden have high taxes and a deep social fracture with very relevant unrest, with crimes, bombs and shooting on the streets not much differently than certain parts of the USA or Sri Lanka these days. Swiss or France or Russia (the state, not the federation) so far have far less deep fracture while have less fiscal pressure. The issue with taxes is in their meaning.
- cinntaile 4y ago
  > I claim increasing prices without increasing wages provoke unrest, and you can see that everywhere in the very present world. If it increases too much that could happen, but there is nothing that says taxes have to be increased too much. > About taxes no, Sweden have high taxes and a deep social fracture with very relevant unrest, with crimes, bombs and shooting on the streets not much differently than certain parts of the USA or Sri Lanka these days. Swiss or France or Russia (the state, not the federation) so far have far less deep fracture while have less fiscal pressure. The issue with taxes is in their meaning. You don't seriously think Sweden has a similar crime rate with bombs and shootings as certain parts of the US... You're watching too much propaganda if you believe that.
  - kkfx 4y ago
    > If it increases too much that could happen, but there is nothing that says taxes have to be increased too much. Let me correcting you: it's happening NOW, almost all other the world. We have already violent unrest in poorest countries and we start to have mass protests in less poor but still with not much developed social systems countries. And not due to tax increases but to mere price increase MOSTLY artificial using covid and Ukraine as excuses but partially NOT artificial due to real shortage and supply chains issues... > You don't seriously think Sweden has a similar crime rate with bombs and shootings as certain parts of the US... I do not think, I know, having lived in Sweden with some friends still there and having some friends in USA, surely I'm not in both places right now (I'm in France) BUT hearing their stories that's essentially the same, only handled in different ways and advertised in different ways. > You're watching too much propaganda if you believe that. We all do, I try my best to collect feeds for generic news to have different propaganda's to be compared and hear people from different places in general but that's is...
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kkfx 4y ago

No, I claim increasing prices without increasing wages provoke unrest, and you can see that everywhere in the very present world. Taxes MUST BE a means to redistribute richness to avoid deepening too much the fork between richest and poorest, but for that money MUST BE a public value-less unit of measure of almost any substrate while actual money are private game, substrate of anything, and so taxes are ways to fund states that actually are just slaves of private central banks, that until some politicians decide that enough is enough and instead to play the right way organize a coup to arrest and devastate such privates criminals overnight manu militari publishing a small advise in the early morning: "anyone still fee can confess publicly it's crime against humanity in the next days or face revenge simply knowing a thing: Democracy does bring human rights, and such rights does not serve only to protect poor against riches but to protect any human being against anyone else, without substantial democracy there are no human rights so the old sword way still apply when used, against anyone, mercyless". Not something likely to happen in short times anyway. About taxes no, Sweden have high taxes and a deep social fracture with very relevant unrest, with crimes, bombs and shooting on the streets not much differently than certain parts of the USA or Sri Lanka these days. Swiss or France or Russia (the state, not the federation) so far have far less deep fracture while have less fiscal pressure. The issue with taxes is in their meaning.

cinntaile 4y ago
> I claim increasing prices without increasing wages provoke unrest, and you can see that everywhere in the very present world. If it increases too much that could happen, but there is nothing that says taxes have to be increased too much. > About taxes no, Sweden have high taxes and a deep social fracture with very relevant unrest, with crimes, bombs and shooting on the streets not much differently than certain parts of the USA or Sri Lanka these days. Swiss or France or Russia (the state, not the federation) so far have far less deep fracture while have less fiscal pressure. The issue with taxes is in their meaning. You don't seriously think Sweden has a similar crime rate with bombs and shootings as certain parts of the US... You're watching too much propaganda if you believe that.
- kkfx 4y ago
  > If it increases too much that could happen, but there is nothing that says taxes have to be increased too much. Let me correcting you: it's happening NOW, almost all other the world. We have already violent unrest in poorest countries and we start to have mass protests in less poor but still with not much developed social systems countries. And not due to tax increases but to mere price increase MOSTLY artificial using covid and Ukraine as excuses but partially NOT artificial due to real shortage and supply chains issues... > You don't seriously think Sweden has a similar crime rate with bombs and shootings as certain parts of the US... I do not think, I know, having lived in Sweden with some friends still there and having some friends in USA, surely I'm not in both places right now (I'm in France) BUT hearing their stories that's essentially the same, only handled in different ways and advertised in different ways. > You're watching too much propaganda if you believe that. We all do, I try my best to collect feeds for generic news to have different propaganda's to be compared and hear people from different places in general but that's is...
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