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The idea that modern US public schools communicate the culture of the sounding community is honestly a little ridiculous sounding.

by usrn 4y ago

mensetmanusman 4y ago
Apparently, national polling is showing that about 80% of parents are concerned about what is being taught in the schools, so it’s likely that this schooling system has decoupled from the values that the citizens want to uphold.
- spamizbad 4y ago
  But if you dig deeper most people rate their own schools higher. It’s the other schools, or schools in aggregate that are the problem in the eyes of the voters. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1612/education.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1612/education.aspx For example, in 2021 only 46% were at least “somewhat satisfied” with the state of education. Pre-COVID numbers were only slightly better. But if you ask a parent about their child’s education 73% are at least “somewhat satisfied” and pre-COVID the numbers are about 5-10 points higher, indicating the vast majority of parents are fine with the education their kids are receiving. This is because of how public school works in the US. Yes, there are federal and state standards that dominate the curriculum but because so much of it is funded by local taxes, school boards do have some leeway in terms of how things get shaped. So maybe you’re appalled at what’s being taught in Texas schools, but why should you care if your kid goes to school in the Chicago suburbs?
  - usrn 4y ago
    >pre-COVID the numbers are about 5-10 points higher To me this says the schools are worse than they though. Now that they can sit in on the classes they see what's actually being taught and don't like it.
kkfx 4y ago
I'm speaking in theory, about schools as a concept. Modern schools implementations in western countries and most of the rest of the world are just about mass indoctrination.
- boppo1 4y ago
  Indoctrination to what? I went through US schools 98-2010, I don't recall any indoc.
  - kkfx 4y ago
    To the neoliberal doctrine, to think the present is the best and sole possible society etc. Or in some other non-westerns countries to think the very same for their equivalent regime. It's not much an accepted topic here, because here is still a platform someone own, but did you see the curios evolution of downvotes? Anytime there are anti-neoliberal posts they get quick upvotes to be subsequently downvoted, often without commenting about why. I can't say it's part of a scoring propaganda technique to hide certain thoughts to many others, I have no data, have done no check to confirm but that's a behavior I've start seeing time ago and regularly observed it. On general media we know how things works anytime there is a "different" opinion, immediately put together with improbable extremists, ridiculed etc... I'm curious if others have seen something equivalent and want to dig a bit more substantially.

The idea that modern US public schools communicate the culture of the sounding community is honestly a little ridiculous sounding.

by usrn 4y ago

The idea that modern US public schools communicate the culture of the sounding community is honestly a little ridiculous sounding.

mensetmanusman 4y ago

Apparently, national polling is showing that about 80% of parents are concerned about what is being taught in the schools, so it’s likely that this schooling system has decoupled from the values that the citizens want to uphold.

spamizbad 4y ago
But if you dig deeper most people rate their own schools higher. It’s the other schools, or schools in aggregate that are the problem in the eyes of the voters. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1612/education.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1612/education.aspx For example, in 2021 only 46% were at least “somewhat satisfied” with the state of education. Pre-COVID numbers were only slightly better. But if you ask a parent about their child’s education 73% are at least “somewhat satisfied” and pre-COVID the numbers are about 5-10 points higher, indicating the vast majority of parents are fine with the education their kids are receiving. This is because of how public school works in the US. Yes, there are federal and state standards that dominate the curriculum but because so much of it is funded by local taxes, school boards do have some leeway in terms of how things get shaped. So maybe you’re appalled at what’s being taught in Texas schools, but why should you care if your kid goes to school in the Chicago suburbs?
- usrn 4y ago
  >pre-COVID the numbers are about 5-10 points higher To me this says the schools are worse than they though. Now that they can sit in on the classes they see what's actually being taught and don't like it.

kkfx 4y ago

I'm speaking in theory, about schools as a concept. Modern schools implementations in western countries and most of the rest of the world are just about mass indoctrination.

boppo1 4y ago
Indoctrination to what? I went through US schools 98-2010, I don't recall any indoc.
- kkfx 4y ago
  To the neoliberal doctrine, to think the present is the best and sole possible society etc. Or in some other non-westerns countries to think the very same for their equivalent regime. It's not much an accepted topic here, because here is still a platform someone own, but did you see the curios evolution of downvotes? Anytime there are anti-neoliberal posts they get quick upvotes to be subsequently downvoted, often without commenting about why. I can't say it's part of a scoring propaganda technique to hide certain thoughts to many others, I have no data, have done no check to confirm but that's a behavior I've start seeing time ago and regularly observed it. On general media we know how things works anytime there is a "different" opinion, immediately put together with improbable extremists, ridiculed etc... I'm curious if others have seen something equivalent and want to dig a bit more substantially.