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There will be no situation in which a mugger could get something from you Don't have your card/phone on you? No worries! We can still force your hand to withdr

There will be no situation in which a mugger could get something from you Don't have your card/phone on you? No worries! We can still force your hand to withdraw money

stu2b50 4y ago
Is the idea that they chop your hand off? If it's just that they hold a gun to your head and make you authenticate with your palm, then they can do that right now. Once the gun is to the head you're kinda compelled to do what they're saying regardless of whether you authenticate with biometrics, password, whatever.
- EvanAnderson 4y ago
  In the town where I live we have a murderer (alleged, admittedly) who cut off his victim's thumb to access the victim's phone: https://www.daytondailynews.com/crime/bail-set-at-15m-for-troy-man-accused-of-killing-roommate/GIHYQB5EYVDRHPG7RH6BJ7RPE4/ https://www.daytondailynews.com/crime/bail-set-at-15m-for-tr...
  - andsoitis 4y ago
    The first paragraph also says he killed the other guy. Even if he didn’t cut off his thumb…
- savant_penguin 4y ago
  The idea is that even if someone points a gun at you they can't do anything to you immediately if you don't have a phone or a credit card with you (as far as I know anyway). But with biometrics no matter what precautions you take, you'll always be in a position to give people your stuff by force
  - stu2b50 4y ago
    So is the threat model that the guy mugging you points a gun at you, then walks you to a store that supports Mastercard bio authentication, and while holding you at gun point, forces you to buy some fungible good from the store that they then rob from you? …does that not seem incredibly convoluted? And not even that damaging for you, it’s obviously and clearly fraudulent, you’d have no issue getting the chargeback.
Gigachad 4y ago
I can imagine the future involving the removal of ATMs tbh. They are becoming less and less of a requirement in modern economies.
- krrrh 4y ago
  In a world with same day delivery I also imagined a future with fewer cell phone stores, but they still seem to be everywhere. At the very least there seems to be bank branches everywhere and they will always have ATMs.

There will be no situation in which a mugger could get something from you Don't have your card/phone on you? No worries! We can still force your hand to withdraw money

stu2b50 4y ago

Is the idea that they chop your hand off? If it's just that they hold a gun to your head and make you authenticate with your palm, then they can do that right now. Once the gun is to the head you're kinda compelled to do what they're saying regardless of whether you authenticate with biometrics, password, whatever.

EvanAnderson 4y ago
In the town where I live we have a murderer (alleged, admittedly) who cut off his victim's thumb to access the victim's phone: https://www.daytondailynews.com/crime/bail-set-at-15m-for-troy-man-accused-of-killing-roommate/GIHYQB5EYVDRHPG7RH6BJ7RPE4/ https://www.daytondailynews.com/crime/bail-set-at-15m-for-tr...
- andsoitis 4y ago
  The first paragraph also says he killed the other guy. Even if he didn’t cut off his thumb…
savant_penguin 4y ago
The idea is that even if someone points a gun at you they can't do anything to you immediately if you don't have a phone or a credit card with you (as far as I know anyway). But with biometrics no matter what precautions you take, you'll always be in a position to give people your stuff by force
- stu2b50 4y ago
  So is the threat model that the guy mugging you points a gun at you, then walks you to a store that supports Mastercard bio authentication, and while holding you at gun point, forces you to buy some fungible good from the store that they then rob from you? …does that not seem incredibly convoluted? And not even that damaging for you, it’s obviously and clearly fraudulent, you’d have no issue getting the chargeback.

Gigachad 4y ago

I can imagine the future involving the removal of ATMs tbh. They are becoming less and less of a requirement in modern economies.

krrrh 4y ago
In a world with same day delivery I also imagined a future with fewer cell phone stores, but they still seem to be everywhere. At the very least there seems to be bank branches everywhere and they will always have ATMs.