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> And in many forms of racing, they usually go significantly faster than general traffic too. Yet, lethal TBIs are more likely to come from motor vehicle accid

by shkkmo 4y ago

> And in many forms of racing, they usually go significantly faster than general traffic too. Yet, lethal TBIs are more likely to come from motor vehicle accidents than from bicycle accidents. > the risks seem low enough that the expense (including time to equip) of that additional equipment is too much to justify its general use. Yet, somehow this argument is deemed irrelevant when helmets for bicycles are discussed. There really is not a compelling reason why helmet usage in a car is different from on a bicycle. The main difference is social acceptability, not any objective risk analysis.

toast0 4y ago
> Yet, lethal TBIs are more likely to come from motor vehicle accidents than from bicycle accidents. Is that per mile, per minute, or per lethal TBI? Also, is a collision between a bicycle and a motor vehicle a motor vehicle accident or a bicycle accident? Of course, bike helmets protect against more than just brain injury. They also protect against road abrasion of some portion of the head, which is not usually a factor for car occupants, except if they're ejected or they're in a car that rolls over and doesn't have an roof or an effective roll bar. Bike helmets are much lower expense and hassle than car helmets (which are mostly motorcycle helmets) and neck restraints, etc. If it's a public use bike system, especially the leave anywhere bikes, the expense and hassle gets overwelming, and helmets for customers of a pedal cab would be similar. I've got a bike helmet with integrated lighting, which adds functionality and is kind of neat, although it was much more expensive than a good enough helmet.
- shkkmo 4y ago
  > per lethal TBI? Per lethal TBI, I don't think the data exists for per mile or per minute. > Also, is a collision between a bicycle and a motor vehicle a motor vehicle accident or a bicycle accident? Good catch, looking at their methods, they do include IDC-10 codes for pedestrian and bicyclist injuries due to motor vehicles in that number so I am not sure how many of those are actual vehicle occupants and I can't find any data at the moment that breaks those numbers down per IDC code group. > Bike helmets are much lower expense and hassle than car helmets (which are mostly motorcycle helmets) and neck restraints,

by shkkmo 4y ago

toast0 4y ago

> Yet, lethal TBIs are more likely to come from motor vehicle accidents than from bicycle accidents. Is that per mile, per minute, or per lethal TBI? Also, is a collision between a bicycle and a motor vehicle a motor vehicle accident or a bicycle accident? Of course, bike helmets protect against more than just brain injury. They also protect against road abrasion of some portion of the head, which is not usually a factor for car occupants, except if they're ejected or they're in a car that rolls over and doesn't have an roof or an effective roll bar. Bike helmets are much lower expense and hassle than car helmets (which are mostly motorcycle helmets) and neck restraints, etc. If it's a public use bike system, especially the leave anywhere bikes, the expense and hassle gets overwelming, and helmets for customers of a pedal cab would be similar. I've got a bike helmet with integrated lighting, which adds functionality and is kind of neat, although it was much more expensive than a good enough helmet.

shkkmo 4y ago
> per lethal TBI? Per lethal TBI, I don't think the data exists for per mile or per minute. > Also, is a collision between a bicycle and a motor vehicle a motor vehicle accident or a bicycle accident? Good catch, looking at their methods, they do include IDC-10 codes for pedestrian and bicyclist injuries due to motor vehicles in that number so I am not sure how many of those are actual vehicle occupants and I can't find any data at the moment that breaks those numbers down per IDC code group. > Bike helmets are much lower expense and hassle than car helmets (which are mostly motorcycle helmets) and neck restraints,