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> In the early 80s, the G7 economies tightened the money supply, raising interest rates dramatically, in an effort to bring inflation under control. This artic
by runeks 4y ago
> In the early 80s, the G7 economies tightened the money supply, raising interest rates dramatically, in an effort to bring inflation under control.
This article points out a similarity between the early 80s and now. So I think it's appropriate to point out a major difference as well.
Consider this chart[1] which shows both the short term interest rate (Federal Funds rate) and long term interest rate (10-year Treasury yield) since 1962. Before rates started rising in the late 70s, the market was used to an interest rate between 5-10% (both long and short term), after which it rose to 15% (long term) and 20% (short term). Compare this with the current situation. Markets now have been used to 0% short term interest rates and 2-3% long term interest rates for over 10 years. The little blip you see to the far right of the chart is how much interest rates have risen so far (to 0.83% short term and 2.85% long term). If such a tiny blip (historically speaking) is the cause of the current correction, then it seems reasonable to expect that this is only a tiny part of a much greater correction that comes if interest rates get even close to the levels seen in the start 80s.
[1] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=PIsi https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=PIsi
- 55555 4y agolol the way you started your comment led me to believe I was going to be reading good news. Then it was just more horrible news.
- CapmCrackaWaka 4y agoSurely speculation about the rise in interest rates has been taken into account by the market, though? If I expected stocks to decrease _drastically_ in the future as the fed increases rates, I would just sell right now, maybe even hold a short position. I feel that real interest rates do effect the market, but the expected future interest rates must also be a part of the "where do I put my money right now" formula.
- runeks 4y agoRelevant point. I agree that the current correction is a reflection of the market’s expectations/predictions. But only for the medium term. The market has no idea what the interest rate will look like in 10 years — which is at least how long it’s going to take if it ever gets to 15-20%. There are simply too many unknowns to predict that.