I have no idea why you would even think a project like this is vaporware. It makes no claims that you can't test out by just downloading it and giving it a spin

I have no idea why you would even think a project like this is vaporware. It makes no claims that you can't test out by just downloading it and giving it a spin. You could have known its not vaporware in less time than you just spent arguing on HN: https://aardappel.github.io/lobster/getting_started.html https://aardappel.github.io/lobster/getting_started.html I can't help you much with your language choice since you appear to be very particular in what you want. Nim is likely more mature as a project, so I suggest you go with that instead.