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There is, it costs less than 10 minutes per day extra and you get quite a bit of freedom from it and at the same time don't have to figure out every meal in adv

by tjoff 4y ago

There is, it costs less than 10 minutes per day extra and you get quite a bit of freedom from it and at the same time don't have to figure out every meal in advance and can adapt at the last minute. Bonus: I don't have to take the car either.

whimsicalism 4y ago
I do think people being reluctant to plan their meals is a large part of why this is less common (also most people don't seem to cook as much as I do so it might not add up as much). but stated otherwise, you are saying that my getting a big order saves me 2 hours every time I do it. 10 minutes is also almost certainly an underestimate, assuming you live a 5 minute walk from the grocery store.
- tjoff 4y ago
  Well, the time and inconvenience to plan for two weeks easily surpasses two hours for me. And having to take the car. Sure, I'd pick a cheaper place with greater options when I go big but that is also a very small price to pay for the convenience. No, it takes less than a minute extra walk from my daily commute (walking), the rest of the nine minutes are to compensate for traversing the grocery store multiple times and wait in line at checkout. If I expand it by another ~4 minutes I have other options as well. If time was of extreme mindless essence I'd also take the bike.
  - whimsicalism 4y ago
    2 weeks is maybe 6-8 cooked meals + leftovers, my partner and I will take maybe 15 minutes selecting 3-4 meals each from things we have cooked in the past or we would like to explore. Going daily to the grocery store costs lots of more time. The vast majority of people do not live a 1 minute walk from a grocery store, even in dense urban areas.
    - tjoff 4y ago
      I don't live a 1 minute walk from a grocery store either (well, I do, but I don't use that one), but I walk past a few on my 20 minute walk to work. And that have been the case for all of my life in all cities and apartments where I've lived. Doesn't apply to everyone of course (using a bike rather than walking dramatically helps though), but it does tie back to the US urban planning leaving a lot to be desired.
    - rglullis 4y ago
      > The vast majority of people do not live a 1 minute walk from a grocery store, even in dense urban areas. In the US, which was the point of my original comment. Here in Berlin I have at least 4 stores (Edeka, Lidl, Al Natura and a no-name Bio Markt ) in a 200m radius. (edit: I am not one to complain about downvotes, but it is ridiculous to see this comment in gray, yet no one able to actually address the point. Bad urban planning and car-dependency in North America is intertwined with a lot of cultural aspects of the society, including this ridiculous notion that groceries are "inconvenient" and therefore better if done in bulk and/or less frequently)
      - pessimizer 4y ago
        The downvotes are probably because you're claiming that you walk 200m in a minute.
        rglullis 4y ago
        It is not the claim at all and still missing the point.
        deleted 4y ago
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      - astrange 4y ago
        The urban planning in the US was intentional; rather than bad it was evil. Berkeley invented “residential only zoning” to create neighborhoods of white office workers because Chinese immigrants were thought to run businesses out of their homes and wanted to ban them. (You can just look up their city council meeting minutes and they’d say this.) These days you might face resistance to allowing light industrial again because people would accuse it of creating traffic and possibly leading people to park in front of their house - Nextdoor posters’ main principle is they should be able to park everywhere for free and nobody else should.
  - Izkata 4y ago
    > Well, the time and inconvenience to plan for two weeks Do people really do that? The majority of what I get is the same across trips. Also there's a thing we do that the daily shoppers sound unaware of: It's called a grocery list. A pad of paper left on the countertop that, at any time over those weeks, anyone in the house can add an item to if they want something different or know we're about to run out of. There's almost no planning involved.
- Zababa 4y ago
  > 10 minutes is also almost certainly an underestimate, assuming you live a 5 minute walk from the grocery store. That depends, it's recommended to walk a certain amount every day to stay healthy. If the trip to the grocery store is part of that, then you don't have to count it in the time spent.

by tjoff 4y ago

whimsicalism 4y ago

I do think people being reluctant to plan their meals is a large part of why this is less common (also most people don't seem to cook as much as I do so it might not add up as much). but stated otherwise, you are saying that my getting a big order saves me 2 hours every time I do it. 10 minutes is also almost certainly an underestimate, assuming you live a 5 minute walk from the grocery store.

tjoff 4y ago
Well, the time and inconvenience to plan for two weeks easily surpasses two hours for me. And having to take the car. Sure, I'd pick a cheaper place with greater options when I go big but that is also a very small price to pay for the convenience. No, it takes less than a minute extra walk from my daily commute (walking), the rest of the nine minutes are to compensate for traversing the grocery store multiple times and wait in line at checkout. If I expand it by another ~4 minutes I have other options as well. If time was of extreme mindless essence I'd also take the bike.
- whimsicalism 4y ago
  2 weeks is maybe 6-8 cooked meals + leftovers, my partner and I will take maybe 15 minutes selecting 3-4 meals each from things we have cooked in the past or we would like to explore. Going daily to the grocery store costs lots of more time. The vast majority of people do not live a 1 minute walk from a grocery store, even in dense urban areas.
  - tjoff 4y ago
    I don't live a 1 minute walk from a grocery store either (well, I do, but I don't use that one), but I walk past a few on my 20 minute walk to work. And that have been the case for all of my life in all cities and apartments where I've lived. Doesn't apply to everyone of course (using a bike rather than walking dramatically helps though), but it does tie back to the US urban planning leaving a lot to be desired.
  - rglullis 4y ago
    > The vast majority of people do not live a 1 minute walk from a grocery store, even in dense urban areas. In the US, which was the point of my original comment. Here in Berlin I have at least 4 stores (Edeka, Lidl, Al Natura and a no-name Bio Markt ) in a 200m radius. (edit: I am not one to complain about downvotes, but it is ridiculous to see this comment in gray, yet no one able to actually address the point. Bad urban planning and car-dependency in North America is intertwined with a lot of cultural aspects of the society, including this ridiculous notion that groceries are "inconvenient" and therefore better if done in bulk and/or less frequently)
    - pessimizer 4y ago
      The downvotes are probably because you're claiming that you walk 200m in a minute.
      - rglullis 4y ago
        It is not the claim at all and still missing the point.
        deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
    - astrange 4y ago
      The urban planning in the US was intentional; rather than bad it was evil. Berkeley invented “residential only zoning” to create neighborhoods of white office workers because Chinese immigrants were thought to run businesses out of their homes and wanted to ban them. (You can just look up their city council meeting minutes and they’d say this.) These days you might face resistance to allowing light industrial again because people would accuse it of creating traffic and possibly leading people to park in front of their house - Nextdoor posters’ main principle is they should be able to park everywhere for free and nobody else should.
- Izkata 4y ago
  > Well, the time and inconvenience to plan for two weeks Do people really do that? The majority of what I get is the same across trips. Also there's a thing we do that the daily shoppers sound unaware of: It's called a grocery list. A pad of paper left on the countertop that, at any time over those weeks, anyone in the house can add an item to if they want something different or know we're about to run out of. There's almost no planning involved.
Zababa 4y ago
> 10 minutes is also almost certainly an underestimate, assuming you live a 5 minute walk from the grocery store. That depends, it's recommended to walk a certain amount every day to stay healthy. If the trip to the grocery store is part of that, then you don't have to count it in the time spent.