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It really depends where you live. In some place like the US suburbs where the nearest grocery store is a 10+ min drive away yeah it can be a considerable inconv

It really depends where you live. In some place like the US suburbs where the nearest grocery store is a 10+ min drive away yeah it can be a considerable inconvenience. But when you live in a city centre and it's a couple min detour from your walk home it's not a big deal. You can have fresher produce, fresh meat, breads that don't need to be shelf stable for a week, etc. It doesn't have to be inconvenient and it can bring a lot of advantages.

whimsicalism 4y ago
I have only ever lived in city centers, it is still faster to buy in bulk. I am vegan so maybe I am not appropriately weighting the fresh meat concerns, most of the stuff I buy does not spoil as easily.
- Jensson 4y ago
  Don't you buy bread? Bread spoils in a few days unless you put a lot of shit in it and every day stored makes it taste worse. Or even most fruits and vegetables, they taste significantly worse after a week. People who shops just once a week can't value the freshness of what they eat at all. Or they just eat dry/frozen/industrial treated wares that don't spoil easily, but eating fresh really tastes a lot better.
  - whimsicalism 4y ago
    Okay, the bread point is true - I will grant you that. I happen to live very close to a small market but wouldn't buy anything other than bread there because they certainly charge for the convenience. You can also bag and freeze bread, but there is a decrease in quality. Just disagree on vegetables, I am a massive veggie lover and the difference is not nearly as much as you are making it out to be. I don't each much processed food. I also don't eat animal products, which might be influencing my opinion since I perceive those as fast to spoil.
    - jokethrowaway 4y ago
      Do you freeze your vegetables? Fruit, vegetables and bread will spoil in a few days.
      - whimsicalism 4y ago
        I typically use a fridge, so my vegetables do not spoil in a few days. I'm assuming you are talking about storing without a fridge because vegetables do not spoil after a few days in the fridge.
  - mantas 4y ago
    Bake your own? Supermarket bread is crap anyway. Good rye bread stays good in paper wrapping in a fridge for a looong time.
    - Jensson 4y ago
      > Supermarket bread is crap anyway Not in Europe. Maybe the reason it is crap in USA is because people don't shop daily and hence they don't buy good bread there? If you optimize bread to taste good after a week instead of tasting good after a day then I can see why American brands put so much sugar in their breads.
      - mantas 4y ago
        I am 100% born and raised euro :) mainstream bread is still crap. Take a look at bread labels. Maybe our bread is not as bad as US, but there’s tons of sugar and other additives. And raising procedures are cutting corners. Sometimes I buy high quality bread from a small bakery. Tastes great and stays great. I find this applies to rye bread only. White bread doesn’t seem to work this way.
        Jensson 4y ago
        I look at the labels, the only ingredients marked on the bread I buy is wheat flour and salt. There are many brands with more stuff in them, sure, but not all are like that. Doesn't last very long though.
        mantas 4y ago
        Wheat bread may be the issue. Rye bread lasts much much longer.
        astrange 4y ago
        This “bad US supermarket bread” doesn’t exist in California. We have even surpassed whole wheat and only eat sprouted seed breads and something that claims to be keto bread somehow. It does exist in Japan. You may think they’re healthy but they eat the worst wheat products imaginable. Even white bread isn’t white enough for them; they cut the crusts off their 711 sandwiches and have whiter than white meat buns.
  - danaris 4y ago
    I don't eat bread fast enough for a full loaf (heck, even a half) that spoils in a few days to be worth paying money for. Heidelberg bread is pretty reliably decent quality, nearly always stays good for the amount of time it takes me to eat a full loaf, and is made with good ingredients.
    - gkop 4y ago
      Not even a half? Then, this won’t be useful for you: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31013326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31013326

whimsicalism 4y ago

I have only ever lived in city centers, it is still faster to buy in bulk. I am vegan so maybe I am not appropriately weighting the fresh meat concerns, most of the stuff I buy does not spoil as easily.

Jensson 4y ago
Don't you buy bread? Bread spoils in a few days unless you put a lot of shit in it and every day stored makes it taste worse. Or even most fruits and vegetables, they taste significantly worse after a week. People who shops just once a week can't value the freshness of what they eat at all. Or they just eat dry/frozen/industrial treated wares that don't spoil easily, but eating fresh really tastes a lot better.
- whimsicalism 4y ago
  Okay, the bread point is true - I will grant you that. I happen to live very close to a small market but wouldn't buy anything other than bread there because they certainly charge for the convenience. You can also bag and freeze bread, but there is a decrease in quality. Just disagree on vegetables, I am a massive veggie lover and the difference is not nearly as much as you are making it out to be. I don't each much processed food. I also don't eat animal products, which might be influencing my opinion since I perceive those as fast to spoil.
  - jokethrowaway 4y ago
    Do you freeze your vegetables? Fruit, vegetables and bread will spoil in a few days.
    - whimsicalism 4y ago
      I typically use a fridge, so my vegetables do not spoil in a few days. I'm assuming you are talking about storing without a fridge because vegetables do not spoil after a few days in the fridge.
- mantas 4y ago
  Bake your own? Supermarket bread is crap anyway. Good rye bread stays good in paper wrapping in a fridge for a looong time.
  - Jensson 4y ago
    > Supermarket bread is crap anyway Not in Europe. Maybe the reason it is crap in USA is because people don't shop daily and hence they don't buy good bread there? If you optimize bread to taste good after a week instead of tasting good after a day then I can see why American brands put so much sugar in their breads.
    - mantas 4y ago
      I am 100% born and raised euro :) mainstream bread is still crap. Take a look at bread labels. Maybe our bread is not as bad as US, but there’s tons of sugar and other additives. And raising procedures are cutting corners. Sometimes I buy high quality bread from a small bakery. Tastes great and stays great. I find this applies to rye bread only. White bread doesn’t seem to work this way.
      - Jensson 4y ago
        I look at the labels, the only ingredients marked on the bread I buy is wheat flour and salt. There are many brands with more stuff in them, sure, but not all are like that. Doesn't last very long though.
        mantas 4y ago
        Wheat bread may be the issue. Rye bread lasts much much longer.
      - astrange 4y ago
        This “bad US supermarket bread” doesn’t exist in California. We have even surpassed whole wheat and only eat sprouted seed breads and something that claims to be keto bread somehow. It does exist in Japan. You may think they’re healthy but they eat the worst wheat products imaginable. Even white bread isn’t white enough for them; they cut the crusts off their 711 sandwiches and have whiter than white meat buns.
- danaris 4y ago
  I don't eat bread fast enough for a full loaf (heck, even a half) that spoils in a few days to be worth paying money for. Heidelberg bread is pretty reliably decent quality, nearly always stays good for the amount of time it takes me to eat a full loaf, and is made with good ingredients.
  - gkop 4y ago
    Not even a half? Then, this won’t be useful for you: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31013326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31013326