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I'm not sure I buy that - Humans can create meaning out of everything - You do not need children for that (there are some that spend years meditating in literal

by v-erne 4y ago

I'm not sure I buy that - Humans can create meaning out of everything - You do not need children for that (there are some that spend years meditating in literal caves and claims that their life is also full of meaning). So given that we can have two persons with life full of meaning, one of which is feeling down most of the time, and both of them somehow selected this life for themselves - its not quite hard to point at not having children as a better way of life. I speak of course from the point of view of me/solicity - others should have as many children as it is required to keep my precious useless stuff mass produced overseas to keep numbing consumptionism continuing until nothingness takes me back.

deltaonefour 4y ago
This is true, but if you think in terms of evolution and natural selection we should be biologically inclined to have certain desires that motivate us to have children above other desires. "Meaning" is more of a creative term, but in actuality much of how we behave is dictated by biology.
- agent008t 4y ago
  For biological inclination, a sex drive is all that's required to ensure children are produced. Biology doesn't care if you are happy or not afterwards.
  - v-erne 4y ago
    A bit of interesting off-topic : I think its a disservice to general knowledge propagation to use personification when taking about systems. People can care, biology and systems in general cannot, they simply have consequences. I blame Richard Dawkins for this (and his very badly titled Selfish Gene)
    - deltaonefour 4y ago
      Caring is part of the system. It is an aspect of the system that only exists because of the system itself. To refuse to analyze this is basically lying to yourself. EVERYTHING is a system.
  - deltaonefour 4y ago
    The children must grow up and reproduce successfully. Not just you... but your children must reproduce as well, so thus you have instincts that shift to forwarding as much resources as possible towards your children.

by v-erne 4y ago

deltaonefour 4y ago

This is true, but if you think in terms of evolution and natural selection we should be biologically inclined to have certain desires that motivate us to have children above other desires. "Meaning" is more of a creative term, but in actuality much of how we behave is dictated by biology.

agent008t 4y ago
For biological inclination, a sex drive is all that's required to ensure children are produced. Biology doesn't care if you are happy or not afterwards.
- v-erne 4y ago
  A bit of interesting off-topic : I think its a disservice to general knowledge propagation to use personification when taking about systems. People can care, biology and systems in general cannot, they simply have consequences. I blame Richard Dawkins for this (and his very badly titled Selfish Gene)
  - deltaonefour 4y ago
    Caring is part of the system. It is an aspect of the system that only exists because of the system itself. To refuse to analyze this is basically lying to yourself. EVERYTHING is a system.
- deltaonefour 4y ago
  The children must grow up and reproduce successfully. Not just you... but your children must reproduce as well, so thus you have instincts that shift to forwarding as much resources as possible towards your children.