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I think it’s funny that they think adults are still in possession of such documents. But it sounds like a red flag. Here’s the test: just tell them no, you’re n

I think it’s funny that they think adults are still in possession of such documents. But it sounds like a red flag. Here’s the test: just tell them no, you’re not going to provide that. The response will decide for you whether you should work there. (In other words, if they say it’s really a requirement, and you can’t work here without producing the document, then walk. If they say, haha, we don’t really need it, well OK.)

codingdave 4y ago
I fully agree that asking about it is step one. But if they say it is required, just deal with it. Not being willing to jump through a couple hoops of red tape to get onboarded to a job is a red flag on the candidate. It may be silly/stupid, but bureaucracy is real. Is it really so much work to call your school, ask for a copy, and send it along that you would decline a job over it?
- leephillips 4y ago
  The submitter was concerned that the requirement was telling him something about the company, and, presumably, wondering if it means he’d be happier not working there. I proposed a test to help him/her answer that question. To turn your (reasonable) question around: is the HS diploma really so important that a company would pass up the chance to hire me if I declined to jump through the hoops to provide it? Are my individual qualities really that unimportant to them? Do they see me as an interchangeable cog in their machine? One reason we are beset by so many layers of irrational bureaucracy is our obedience to it. I did not suggest asking. I suggested telling them “no”.
- lovelearning 4y ago
  > Is it really so much work to call your school, ask for a copy, and send it along Depending on the country of residence, it really can be a lot of work. For example, I live in one such country where frequent demands for arcane documents coexist with high levels of negligence and shoddiness in preparing those documents. A document of a local routine event that happened 25 years ago can be very difficult to obtain here. I hope most recruiters who are ready to recruit across borders are not making reductionist assumptions about other bureaucracies.

codingdave 4y ago

I fully agree that asking about it is step one. But if they say it is required, just deal with it. Not being willing to jump through a couple hoops of red tape to get onboarded to a job is a red flag on the candidate. It may be silly/stupid, but bureaucracy is real. Is it really so much work to call your school, ask for a copy, and send it along that you would decline a job over it?

leephillips 4y ago
The submitter was concerned that the requirement was telling him something about the company, and, presumably, wondering if it means he’d be happier not working there. I proposed a test to help him/her answer that question. To turn your (reasonable) question around: is the HS diploma really so important that a company would pass up the chance to hire me if I declined to jump through the hoops to provide it? Are my individual qualities really that unimportant to them? Do they see me as an interchangeable cog in their machine? One reason we are beset by so many layers of irrational bureaucracy is our obedience to it. I did not suggest asking. I suggested telling them “no”.
lovelearning 4y ago
> Is it really so much work to call your school, ask for a copy, and send it along Depending on the country of residence, it really can be a lot of work. For example, I live in one such country where frequent demands for arcane documents coexist with high levels of negligence and shoddiness in preparing those documents. A document of a local routine event that happened 25 years ago can be very difficult to obtain here. I hope most recruiters who are ready to recruit across borders are not making reductionist assumptions about other bureaucracies.