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This book was unreadably pretentious. Constantly capitalizing "Lean Startup Movement" (and for that matter, using the word "movement") makes it sound like some

by drp 15y ago

This book was unreadably pretentious. Constantly capitalizing "Lean Startup Movement" (and for that matter, using the word "movement") makes it sound like some sort of religion. Readers looking for something substantive or even thought provoking will be thoroughly disappointed.

Gabriel_Martin 15y ago
From my perspective, it seems that you're taking too harsh a stance on this, of course though, you're entitled to your opinions. I believe though, that Mr. Ries is justified in calling this a movement, because of the pockets of people who have not only adopted these practices, but have built communities supporting the others' adoption as well. I find it especially notable that they're organizing and meeting completely separate from any urging from the author. Regarding the substance of the book, from my perspective, I feel that the one requirement for a book like this is met. This would be enough structured advice and strategy to provide a startup founder with concepts to act upon, and improve their odds of success. As a founder myself, that's all I could want from a book, if I thought it would improve my odds by one half of a percent, I'd still buy it. All things considered, my greatest gains have been through the Lean community, not materials, but as an introduction, I'm inclined to believe that it's suffices for those new to the concept, and as a refresher, it's sufficient as well. (Again you are entitled to you're opinion, this is simply my differing perspective) Regarding the pretentiousness of the author's grammar, I wasn't bothered and hadn't considered the implications of the capitalization or phrasing, due to my focus on the concepts inside book.
breathesalt 15y ago
I'm currently a 100 pages into TLS. If anything, Ries has attempted to bring more scientific process to a historically religious field that achieves failure (successfully, faithfully, and rigorously executing a plan that turns out to be flawed) much too often. I would say he is trying to form a common language entrepreneurs can use to think effectively about entrepreneurism.
- davidw 15y ago
  A genuinely scientific process would control for all variables, something that seems exceedingly difficult to do with a real startup.

by drp 15y ago

Gabriel_Martin 15y ago

From my perspective, it seems that you're taking too harsh a stance on this, of course though, you're entitled to your opinions. I believe though, that Mr. Ries is justified in calling this a movement, because of the pockets of people who have not only adopted these practices, but have built communities supporting the others' adoption as well. I find it especially notable that they're organizing and meeting completely separate from any urging from the author. Regarding the substance of the book, from my perspective, I feel that the one requirement for a book like this is met. This would be enough structured advice and strategy to provide a startup founder with concepts to act upon, and improve their odds of success. As a founder myself, that's all I could want from a book, if I thought it would improve my odds by one half of a percent, I'd still buy it. All things considered, my greatest gains have been through the Lean community, not materials, but as an introduction, I'm inclined to believe that it's suffices for those new to the concept, and as a refresher, it's sufficient as well. (Again you are entitled to you're opinion, this is simply my differing perspective) Regarding the pretentiousness of the author's grammar, I wasn't bothered and hadn't considered the implications of the capitalization or phrasing, due to my focus on the concepts inside book.

breathesalt 15y ago

I'm currently a 100 pages into TLS. If anything, Ries has attempted to bring more scientific process to a historically religious field that achieves failure (successfully, faithfully, and rigorously executing a plan that turns out to be flawed) much too often. I would say he is trying to form a common language entrepreneurs can use to think effectively about entrepreneurism.

davidw 15y ago
A genuinely scientific process would control for all variables, something that seems exceedingly difficult to do with a real startup.