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“In no city have I felt as unsafe as Berlin”: opera singer sues metro

16 points by nigerian1981 4y ago

cafard 4y ago
Troubling.
boomer_joe 4y ago
- foldr 4y ago
  > and another pushed him on to a metal bench, causing scrapes on his forearm and thigh that required hospital treatment. >Abbéy Odunlami, a Nigerian-American art curator, who in December 2020 suffered a crushed shoulder blade, a broken collar bone and two broken ribs > ... Something's gone terribly wrong if there's a physical altercation resulting from someone possibly not having a valid subway ticket. There's no indication that any of these people initiated physical violence. Even if they were somehow deliberately being pains in the ass, that should never give rise to violence over such a trivial issue.
- rowanG077 4y ago
  I first read your comment, then the article. And I simply cannot match the two. Ok so maybe the didn't immediately show their ticket. You think this warrants almost killing someone? ridiculous.
sorokod 4y ago
For whatever it's worth, living in Berlin for more then three years, haven't observed anything of the sort. Full disclosure: heavy user of U2.
draklor40 4y ago
Foreigner living in Berlin. Ticket inspectors are civilized and polite. Altercations and provocations are rare. Given my observations, I will take this news report with a BIG pinch of salt rather than assume discriminatory behaviour.
- pcthrowaway 4y ago
  The article makes a good case for possible abuse of authority by the ticket controllers, which may disproportionately target marginalized people. For what it's worth, I never had any issues on transit in Berlin either. I'm also white, so this obviously has no bearing on what people of colour may be experiencing
- llampx 4y ago
  Also a foreigner living in Berlin, not sheltered. I've seen harsh words and physical posturing that could easily be one step below actual violence with the contractors. They are out to get people, and show no mercy. Once you get a ticket, the onus is on you to prove you were innocent. I've heard of foreigners with valid tickets being harassed.

16 points by nigerian1981 4y ago

cafard 4y ago

Troubling.

boomer_joe 4y ago

foldr 4y ago
> and another pushed him on to a metal bench, causing scrapes on his forearm and thigh that required hospital treatment. >Abbéy Odunlami, a Nigerian-American art curator, who in December 2020 suffered a crushed shoulder blade, a broken collar bone and two broken ribs > ... Something's gone terribly wrong if there's a physical altercation resulting from someone possibly not having a valid subway ticket. There's no indication that any of these people initiated physical violence. Even if they were somehow deliberately being pains in the ass, that should never give rise to violence over such a trivial issue.
rowanG077 4y ago
I first read your comment, then the article. And I simply cannot match the two. Ok so maybe the didn't immediately show their ticket. You think this warrants almost killing someone? ridiculous.

sorokod 4y ago

For whatever it's worth, living in Berlin for more then three years, haven't observed anything of the sort. Full disclosure: heavy user of U2.

draklor40 4y ago

Foreigner living in Berlin. Ticket inspectors are civilized and polite. Altercations and provocations are rare. Given my observations, I will take this news report with a BIG pinch of salt rather than assume discriminatory behaviour.

pcthrowaway 4y ago
The article makes a good case for possible abuse of authority by the ticket controllers, which may disproportionately target marginalized people. For what it's worth, I never had any issues on transit in Berlin either. I'm also white, so this obviously has no bearing on what people of colour may be experiencing
llampx 4y ago
Also a foreigner living in Berlin, not sheltered. I've seen harsh words and physical posturing that could easily be one step below actual violence with the contractors. They are out to get people, and show no mercy. Once you get a ticket, the onus is on you to prove you were innocent. I've heard of foreigners with valid tickets being harassed.