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I know a number of people who have just gone back to torrenting everything they care about (such as For All Mankind or Foundation) and are very unlikely to ever

I know a number of people who have just gone back to torrenting everything they care about (such as For All Mankind or Foundation) and are very unlikely to ever subscribe to a 2nd, 3rd, 4th streaming service. They either picked netflix and have stayed with it at $22/mo or have changed from netflix to 1 other service like paramount+ or whatever, but the idea of paying $50-60-80 a month for more services on top of their residential broadband connection at $55-85 is a non-starter. https://imgur.com/gallery/axPwdMd https://imgur.com/gallery/axPwdMd

MauroIksem 4y ago
This is basically me. I have the 15 dollar tier of Netflix and then my friends and i share a Plex hosted at a buddy's house where we get whatever content we want.
ajmurmann 4y ago
Interesting to call out Netflix for high price and then the examples for torrenting are Apple shows which is much cheaper.
- avh02 4y ago
  My assumption with appletv is that you need half their ecosystem to even have the honour of giving them money to watch content.
  - dan1234 4y ago
    Appletv+ is available on android, web, and quite a few smart tvs so you can subscribe without having any other connection with their ecosystem. It’s more likely they pirate because apple’s library is pretty small, compared to others, so it’s easier to just torrent than pay for the couple of programmes they want to watch. It’s also more difficult to share logins with appletv (no profiles etc), so you’ll get less of the account sharing that Netflix is now trying to crack down on.
GekkePrutser 4y ago
I'm seeing that a lot too. Netflix killed piracy with price and more importantly convenience. But the extreme fragmentation of the streaming market is driving people back to the torrents. They don't want to sign up somewhere for every new show that they hear about. The industry is killing itself this way. Netflix is just the first to take the hit because they have the largest market saturation.
- creakingstairs 4y ago
  Soon there will be some service that bundles up all the streaming services into one service. They might even call it cable :p
  - emidln 4y ago
    They call these services "private trackers" and "VPNs". They're inexpensive and probably have a better UX than whatever other five streaming sites you'd otherwise have to use put together.
    - Sakos 4y ago
      Don't even have to do that. There are tons of "free" streaming sites out there that have a decent interface and a massive library that blows every single paid service out of the water.
      - maneesh 4y ago
        Fmovies.to is an excellent example. Any others you know of?
  - bryanrasmussen 4y ago
    Actually sort of have that in Denmark, in Yousee - can't really see anything about it https://tv.yousee.dk/ https://tv.yousee.dk/ without being logged in but they have an online cable service which also allows you to take content from HBO, ViaPlay etc. as well as current content from free tv and cable you are signed up for. They also offer HBOMax, Netflix, and Disney+ but when you take those as your media offerings you have to use the various sites which I think is a mistake (probably they have to do it that way because of contractual requirements) but obviously if you use up your potential media selections from an YouSee account on other providers at some point you probably think why am I using YouSee?
Handytinge 4y ago
I'm totally fine with spending $100+ per month on streaming. My issue is consistency. Every streaming service had their own app which may or may not be available on my TV, tablet, phone or computer. The experience is varying on each device (e.g I can disable auto playing trailers for Netflix on my phone but not TV). Then on top of that, each streaming service requires additional complexity (logins, setting up profiles) and has varying UI (search, continue watching, subtitle and quality control). It's significantly less hassle for me to just Jellyfin + *arr services than try to manage this on a daily basis.

MauroIksem 4y ago

This is basically me. I have the 15 dollar tier of Netflix and then my friends and i share a Plex hosted at a buddy's house where we get whatever content we want.

ajmurmann 4y ago

Interesting to call out Netflix for high price and then the examples for torrenting are Apple shows which is much cheaper.

avh02 4y ago
My assumption with appletv is that you need half their ecosystem to even have the honour of giving them money to watch content.
- dan1234 4y ago
  Appletv+ is available on android, web, and quite a few smart tvs so you can subscribe without having any other connection with their ecosystem. It’s more likely they pirate because apple’s library is pretty small, compared to others, so it’s easier to just torrent than pay for the couple of programmes they want to watch. It’s also more difficult to share logins with appletv (no profiles etc), so you’ll get less of the account sharing that Netflix is now trying to crack down on.

GekkePrutser 4y ago

I'm seeing that a lot too. Netflix killed piracy with price and more importantly convenience. But the extreme fragmentation of the streaming market is driving people back to the torrents. They don't want to sign up somewhere for every new show that they hear about. The industry is killing itself this way. Netflix is just the first to take the hit because they have the largest market saturation.

creakingstairs 4y ago
Soon there will be some service that bundles up all the streaming services into one service. They might even call it cable :p
- emidln 4y ago
  They call these services "private trackers" and "VPNs". They're inexpensive and probably have a better UX than whatever other five streaming sites you'd otherwise have to use put together.
  - Sakos 4y ago
    Don't even have to do that. There are tons of "free" streaming sites out there that have a decent interface and a massive library that blows every single paid service out of the water.
    - maneesh 4y ago
      Fmovies.to is an excellent example. Any others you know of?
- bryanrasmussen 4y ago
  Actually sort of have that in Denmark, in Yousee - can't really see anything about it https://tv.yousee.dk/ https://tv.yousee.dk/ without being logged in but they have an online cable service which also allows you to take content from HBO, ViaPlay etc. as well as current content from free tv and cable you are signed up for. They also offer HBOMax, Netflix, and Disney+ but when you take those as your media offerings you have to use the various sites which I think is a mistake (probably they have to do it that way because of contractual requirements) but obviously if you use up your potential media selections from an YouSee account on other providers at some point you probably think why am I using YouSee?

Handytinge 4y ago

I'm totally fine with spending $100+ per month on streaming. My issue is consistency. Every streaming service had their own app which may or may not be available on my TV, tablet, phone or computer. The experience is varying on each device (e.g I can disable auto playing trailers for Netflix on my phone but not TV). Then on top of that, each streaming service requires additional complexity (logins, setting up profiles) and has varying UI (search, continue watching, subtitle and quality control). It's significantly less hassle for me to just Jellyfin + *arr services than try to manage this on a daily basis.