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So I guess the standard "you should have read the terms and conditions before you signed the form" only applies in one direction eh?
by nrmitchi 4y ago
So I guess the standard "you should have read the terms and conditions before you signed the form" only applies in one direction eh?
- ajross 4y agoIf you present a contract to the hospital and explain that these are your terms, and a reasonably understood officer of the business signs it, then sure: they're on the hook. Contracts are contracts, and the law gives great weight to consent, even in circumstances like this where it's not clear a real negotiation happened. The idea above was about "swapping" some random document in for the standard form and presenting it to them as if it was their document. That's not good faith negotiation, that's just fraud.
- rowanG077 4y agoIf you gave back a different form and the hospital doesn't bother to check it's their fault. Sending back amended contracts back to back during negotiations is completely normal.
- resoluteteeth 4y agoThere is a difference between informing them you are modifying it or sending back a clearly edited version and stealthily modifying it in the hopes that they won't notice. I don't think it's going to hold up if you surreptitiously modify it in bad faith.
- drdec 4y agoYou don't need the new document to hold up in court, the gambit is to deprive them of having your legal agreement. Granted, a court might still see that as fraud, IANAL.
- ajross 4y agoAnd again, refusing to sign a contract while presenting to a business as if you did for the purpose of getting out of the payment agreement is simply fraud. It's not even arguable.