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Lamer News
- aristus 15y agoLarger arrows. My #1 feature wish. Why do I have 10 points just for signing up?
- cmelbye 15y agoOn the to do list, he says that he intends to transfer karma to the poster when you upvote something. So if you upvoted a link, you would be deducted one karma point and it would be given to the person who submitted the link. So, eventually it seems as if you'll need those 10 karma points to allow you to start voting.
- kijin 15y agoThis looks like a good idea to encourage contributing instead of simply lurking around and voting things down. But LN will have to be careful with the economics of karma, because otherwise people might become reluctant to vote for fear of losing karma.
- ashamedlion 15y agoCertainly not trying to be rude, but what is the value of the site? What does it provide beyond HN? Love that it's open source, though. I'll definitely be taking a look at it.
- judofyr 15y agoBy reading the source you learn how to write a real-life application that uses Redis as its main database.
- ashamedlion 15y agoOh I see! Could be helpful. I'll try to add to the community, too :)
- Mizza 15y agoHackerNews is (mostly) Open Source as well: http://arclanguage.org/item?id=4718 http://arclanguage.org/item?id=4718 It's just written in some crazy esoteric language by some nutjob. :)
- baby 15y agoA website like HN is really simple to make in PHP. I don't see the point in making it open source. I don't see the point copying HN either. HN is not a great website because of it's design (which is really poor in my opinion). It's a great website because of the community.
- bhousel 15y agoPersonally, I think Hacker News has a great design and a poor community. I guess these things are just a matter of taste.
- inconditus 15y agoHonest question, why have you stayed at HN for almost three years if it's a poor community?
- 0x12 15y agoBecause if he left it would be even poorer.
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- rauljara 15y agoConsidering joining just because it is a much smaller community, and I will have a disproportionately larger impact than I do at hacker news. I am more likely to be able to influence it to be more like the site I want it to be than I am able to influence hacker news. I imagine most hn folk who join lamer news at first will do it for that reason. I don't think many will actually be giving up hacker news in joining lamer news, tho.
- Swizec 15y agoLooks like an interesting concept to hack on. But somehow I get the nagging feeling it's suffering from the whole "everyone needs to code their own CMS at some point in their career". Maybe the new saying will be "Every competent web dev has coded a news site at some point"? PS: I joined, my internet OCD demands it.
- itsnotvalid 15y agoMe too. I can't resist on voting up every article on the front page.
- gabriele 15y agoantirez is not new to this. he created one of the first Digg/Reddit inspired news site in Italy back in 2005 or 2006. I beleive that was originally built in PHP/MySql and recently ported to Redis as the main database. The entire project was aquired by one of the largest italian internet companies around 2006 or 2007 and it's now hosted at http://oknotizie.virgilio.com http://oknotizie.virgilio.com As far as I know, that project was never made open source. You can find other early projects from antirez here http://merzia.com/ http://merzia.com/
- inconditus 15y agoLink should be http://oknotizie.virgilio.it/ http://oknotizie.virgilio.it/, not .com.
- strmpnk 15y agoFirst easy test I posted was a link to a domain that gets blocked here (legit content). While it's just a tech demo site, I hope it will turn into an experiment for new ideas, particularly with the right balance between Y-combinator startups and their competitors (blocked submissions on HN).
- sid6376 15y agoI did not know HN blocked legit content. Can you give me an example?
- strmpnk 15y agoNodejitsu's blog is the example I was referring too. Edit: submissions will silently be hidden. Following the link below brings me to a blank page. Also nothing on the new tab.
- viraptor 15y agoThat's strange... could someone confirm? I would be very disappointed if that was true and not widely known. On the other hand, I didn't have any problems with submitting that link: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3146239 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3146239
- genieyclo 15y agoHere is the list of banned sites: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=499044 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=499044 "The great majority are banned for spamming and/or voting rings. Others (like url shortening services, squidoo, etc) are banned because they're often used by spammers. Others are banned for the reasons I listed in that recent essay: linkjacking, being offtopic, or characteristically being fluff."
- mmahemoff 15y agoThanks, didn't know about that. 3 years old though, I'm assuming there's a more up-to-date list in operation.
- ericmoritz 15y agoCode: https://github.com/antirez/lamernews https://github.com/antirez/lamernews
- DanBC 15y agoThanks for this. I've joined. What I'd really like to see is "$NAME, like Hacker/Lamer news, but for book reviews". The submission has a title which is $BOOKNAME - $AUTHORNAME; then the post contains maybe a link to some online store selling it. (affiliate links are allowed). After that the first post is a review of the book. That allows people to upvote the book, but downvote the review (or vice versa.) Really, I should just buy some hosting and get my head round hackernews / lamernews.
- gbrindisi 15y agoThis is a lovely idea I can see myself using it!
- DanBC 15y agoI would definitely use it! I just know that I'm never going to get around to setting it up. So, if anyone else wants to they should.
- recoiledsnake 15y agoThere's this http://www.reddit.com/r/redditbooks http://www.reddit.com/r/redditbooks Also see links on the right of http://www.reddit.com/r/books http://www.reddit.com/r/books for more books related sub reddits.
- rmc 15y agoAll of these are social problems, not technical problems. It's really really not hard to programme up a vote up/vote down site. The hard part is the community.
- pragmagic 15y agoI have something very similar somewhere in my project graveyard. I never got round to launching but your comment has motivated me a little. I'll see if I can dig it out.
- jtheory 15y agoI think this is one of those ideas that's gets progressively less attractive as you get into details. It takes a lot of time and thought to write a good book review, and you don't get anything out of it (unlike spending time to post a well-worded Ask HN, or spending almost no time to post a link to something interesting). Most folks in a HN-like community don't have that time. If they even have time to read more than a few books a year... so they aren't going to spend hours perusing book review (which aren't actually of value themselves.. they just point to other things that will be valuable to buy then read...).
- gbrindisi 15y agoJust to give some context about the genesis of LN, here are some tweets by Salvatore: dudes the time for YC to be replaced by something open and not privately owned has come, and I want to help in some way http://twitter.com/#!/antirez/status/124256931970949120 I mean not YC the company, but the news site: news.ycombinator.com http://twitter.com/#!/antirez/status/124257007988510721 First step, I want to code some Redis based fast replacement of the code base. Guess what? Not written in Arc ;) http://twitter.com/#!/antirez/status/124257497946140673 Second, let's make the code base open source. Finally I'll get a linode instance for the first year, and put it into some domain. http://twitter.com/#!/antirez/status/124257713659191296 p.s. I know that Reddit is open source, but I want to write a Redis clone so that it can make a good use case at least ;) http://www.tweetdeck.com/ Note: site will not be mine, once I put it online + github I want to create a "core team" from different companies / countries. http://twitter.com/#!/antirez/status/124259611896315905 if you wonder about why "lamer" news, one of the things I like less of HN is how they turned the "hacker" term into almost a joke... http://twitter.com/#!/antirez/status/124264048555606016 @rbucker: @antirez that makes much more sense. And I agree with that. News dot yc is a conflict of interest. Sort of. http://twitter.com/#!/rbucker/status/124263894058414080 @rbucker exactly what I think... for instance YC funded companies job postings are special news that are "sticky" or alike. http://twitter.com/#!/antirez/status/124263563782144000 @dvirsky lamernews has a meaning actually, it is like Cusano philosophy "I know that I don't know". Makes sense IMHO in the hacker culture. http://twitter.com/#!/antirez/status/124265164546650114
- fooyc 15y agoI believe it's highly related: Dudes that's incredible, hacker news guys removed my blog post from the home page. Truly lame. https://twitter.com/#!/antirez/status/122310866728271872 I think the blog post was this: What's wrong with the iPhone 4s, and why Jobs is not my hero -> http://antirez.com/post/iphone-4s-and-jobs.html https://twitter.com/#!/antirez/status/122302491734978561
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- llambda 15y agoSomebody left the debug switch on: http://cl.ly/BBFy http://cl.ly/BBFy
- luser001 15y agoCool. I've joined. Hopefully LN will be a more democratic forum than HN.
- kijin 15y agoMinor bug: Both lamernews.com and www.lamernews.com lead to the same site, with no redirection either way. Logging into lamernews.com does not log me into www.lamernews.com, and vice versa. This would get confusing once people start linking to various parts of the site. Nothing that can't be fixed with a quick rewrite rule, though.
- fedd 15y agoi started to make a reddit clone too to demo our mety db - http://vsetec.com/uncensor/ http://vsetec.com/uncensor/ (dont click the spammy links, the site is sorta unattended now).
- titel 15y agoI really don't feel this is the right approach to come up with a HN alternative. Maybe Hacker News has it's issues but, even if it Lamer News were a better option I do not think that somebody mocking 'competitors' (even though to be fair that is not even close - as this new site is only days old - as compared to HN) is a 'leader' worth following in forming a new community.
- dustingetz 15y agoplease, please, please, do not re-invent the wheel. HN software is fine. http://arclanguage.org/item?id=4718 http://arclanguage.org/item?id=4718
- chc 15y agoIt isn't as though there weren't Slashdot, Digg, Reddit and a million similar sites before Hacker News. If he wants his own codebase, that's his prerogative.
- Andi 15y agoI support the idea! Buz please change the name. Being proud of what you do and giving an appropriate name is underrated.
- jabo 15y agoI would really love to have an API for lamernews, given that the system is trying to be more open than HN: http://lamernews.com/news/58 http://lamernews.com/news/58
- cookiecaper 15y agoI'm currently developing a similar open-source news aggregation codebase in Python/Pyramid. NoSQL support is something I'd like to add at some point but right now all database operations depend on SQLAlchemy. I would really, really like to see some NoSQL-ish modifications to a library like that, I hope antirez or other big names in k-v stores work on that soon -- it would certainly expand redis et al much faster. I plan on making a big formal post about this when it has a bit more polish, but there are already a couple of sites that are using it. Here's the link if anyone's interested: https://github.com/sjuxax/raggregate https://github.com/sjuxax/raggregate
- skrebbel 15y agoAm I the only one who occasionally gets a page full of Go Daddy ads on http://lamernews.com/news/1 http://lamernews.com/news/1 ?