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Let me know once people in the US stop referring to meat-filled pastry as "koláče". I was horrified to find out about that. But I wouldn't hold my breath on tha

by jhgb 4y ago

Let me know once people in the US stop referring to meat-filled pastry as "koláče". I was horrified to find out about that. But I wouldn't hold my breath on that one either.

cleansingfire 4y ago
The only place I've seen kolatches (sp.) was fifty years ago in the little town of West, TX (and it's not really in West Texas, but more in between Fort Worth and Austin.) Those were pastries filled with various delicious things, including sausage and fruit.) I don't think I've ever seen kolatches anywhere else. I'd love to find more, and learn the difference. They are far from common in the USA sadly.
- jhgb 4y ago
  I'm not sure I could tell you anything more than Wikipedia can already tell you in my stead. Sausages simply have nothing to do with koláče; koláče are basically sweets. You wouldn't put a sausage in a cake either, I'm sure.
  - buildsjets 4y ago
    I sure as heck would put a sausage in a cake, and I do so frequently. It’s delicious, and it’s called “Pigs in a Blanket.” https://reluctantentertainer.com/buttermilk-pancake-pigs-in-a-blanket/ https://reluctantentertainer.com/buttermilk-pancake-pigs-in-...
    - jhgb 4y ago
      Isn't that massively stretching the definition of a "cake"? When I wrote "cake", I meant this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cake#/media/File:Pound_layer_cake.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cake#/media/File:Pound_layer_c... -- do you put a sausage in those?
      - buildsjets 4y ago
        These all sound awesome, I think I will have to make one of them this weekend. The "Old Time Pork Cake" is calling to me. https://www.texascooking.com/recipes/sausage-bundt-cake.htm https://www.texascooking.com/recipes/sausage-bundt-cake.htm https://newfoundland.ws/christmas-old-time-pork-cake-recipe/ https://newfoundland.ws/christmas-old-time-pork-cake-recipe/ https://eatwithjean.com/pork-floss-roll-cake/ https://eatwithjean.com/pork-floss-roll-cake/
- selimthegrim 4y ago
  They can be found quite easily in Austin and New Orleans.
t-3 4y ago
Never heard of 'em. Is it like a pasty?
- jhgb 4y ago
  It's supposed to look like this https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol%C3%A1%C4%8D#/media/Soubor:Kol%C3%A1%C4%8Dky.jpg https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol%C3%A1%C4%8D#/media/Soubor:... , but apparently in the US, some people put meat in them, when they're actually supposed to be filled with prune plum spread ("povidla") or some other fruit filling, poppy seed filling, or quark.
- bsg75 4y ago
  Pasty - a term I did expect to see on HN. Referring to the Finnish variety or other ?
  - t-3 4y ago
    Yep, I have a lot of family in Copper Country.
reaperducer 4y ago
Let me know once people in the US stop referring to meat-filled pastry as "koláče". Kolaches mean different things in different parts of the U.S. In Chicago, they're often filled with sweet things, and sold by mom-and-pop shops and bakeries. In Houston, they're mainly for breakfast, with things like eggs, bacon, sausage, brisket, etc. and sold by chains like Shipley's and Kolache Factory: https://kolachefactory.com https://kolachefactory.com Recently, the Houston version of kolaches has made inroads into Chicago: https://www.howdykolache.com https://www.howdykolache.com
- jhgb 4y ago
  Yeah, and eggs, bacons, sausages, and briskets have no business being in a sweet dish such as koláč (which looks like this: https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol%C3%A1%C4%8D#/media/Soubor:Kol%C3%A1%C4%8Dky.jpg https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol%C3%A1%C4%8D#/media/Soubor:...).
  - reaperducer 4y ago
    That looks like a topless paczki. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pączki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pączki Paczki Day is almost as big a holiday in Chicago as Casimir Pulaski Day.
    - jhgb 4y ago
      If pączki are anything like Czech koblihy (to which they bear an uncanny resemblance -- cf. https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobliha#/media/Soubor:Picswiss_BL-57-12.jpg https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobliha#/media/Soubor:Picswiss...), then their dough is must be very different from dough for koláče.

by jhgb 4y ago

Let me know once people in the US stop referring to meat-filled pastry as "koláče". I was horrified to find out about that. But I wouldn't hold my breath on that one either.

cleansingfire 4y ago

The only place I've seen kolatches (sp.) was fifty years ago in the little town of West, TX (and it's not really in West Texas, but more in between Fort Worth and Austin.) Those were pastries filled with various delicious things, including sausage and fruit.) I don't think I've ever seen kolatches anywhere else. I'd love to find more, and learn the difference. They are far from common in the USA sadly.

jhgb 4y ago
I'm not sure I could tell you anything more than Wikipedia can already tell you in my stead. Sausages simply have nothing to do with koláče; koláče are basically sweets. You wouldn't put a sausage in a cake either, I'm sure.
- buildsjets 4y ago
  I sure as heck would put a sausage in a cake, and I do so frequently. It’s delicious, and it’s called “Pigs in a Blanket.” https://reluctantentertainer.com/buttermilk-pancake-pigs-in-a-blanket/ https://reluctantentertainer.com/buttermilk-pancake-pigs-in-...
  - jhgb 4y ago
    Isn't that massively stretching the definition of a "cake"? When I wrote "cake", I meant this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cake#/media/File:Pound_layer_cake.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cake#/media/File:Pound_layer_c... -- do you put a sausage in those?
    - buildsjets 4y ago
      These all sound awesome, I think I will have to make one of them this weekend. The "Old Time Pork Cake" is calling to me. https://www.texascooking.com/recipes/sausage-bundt-cake.htm https://www.texascooking.com/recipes/sausage-bundt-cake.htm https://newfoundland.ws/christmas-old-time-pork-cake-recipe/ https://newfoundland.ws/christmas-old-time-pork-cake-recipe/ https://eatwithjean.com/pork-floss-roll-cake/ https://eatwithjean.com/pork-floss-roll-cake/
selimthegrim 4y ago
They can be found quite easily in Austin and New Orleans.

t-3 4y ago

Never heard of 'em. Is it like a pasty?

jhgb 4y ago
It's supposed to look like this https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol%C3%A1%C4%8D#/media/Soubor:Kol%C3%A1%C4%8Dky.jpg https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol%C3%A1%C4%8D#/media/Soubor:... , but apparently in the US, some people put meat in them, when they're actually supposed to be filled with prune plum spread ("povidla") or some other fruit filling, poppy seed filling, or quark.
bsg75 4y ago
Pasty - a term I did expect to see on HN. Referring to the Finnish variety or other ?
- t-3 4y ago
  Yep, I have a lot of family in Copper Country.

reaperducer 4y ago

Let me know once people in the US stop referring to meat-filled pastry as "koláče". Kolaches mean different things in different parts of the U.S. In Chicago, they're often filled with sweet things, and sold by mom-and-pop shops and bakeries. In Houston, they're mainly for breakfast, with things like eggs, bacon, sausage, brisket, etc. and sold by chains like Shipley's and Kolache Factory: https://kolachefactory.com https://kolachefactory.com Recently, the Houston version of kolaches has made inroads into Chicago: https://www.howdykolache.com https://www.howdykolache.com

jhgb 4y ago
Yeah, and eggs, bacons, sausages, and briskets have no business being in a sweet dish such as koláč (which looks like this: https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol%C3%A1%C4%8D#/media/Soubor:Kol%C3%A1%C4%8Dky.jpg https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol%C3%A1%C4%8D#/media/Soubor:...).
- reaperducer 4y ago
  That looks like a topless paczki. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pączki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pączki Paczki Day is almost as big a holiday in Chicago as Casimir Pulaski Day.
  - jhgb 4y ago
    If pączki are anything like Czech koblihy (to which they bear an uncanny resemblance -- cf. https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobliha#/media/Soubor:Picswiss_BL-57-12.jpg https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobliha#/media/Soubor:Picswiss...), then their dough is must be very different from dough for koláče.