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You mean lennart poettering. Also the guy behind systemd. He's a bit controversial since he goes against the Unix philosophy and isn't very nuanced in expressin

by kabes 4y ago

You mean lennart poettering. Also the guy behind systemd. He's a bit controversial since he goes against the Unix philosophy and isn't very nuanced in expressing his opinion, but all criticism is easy in hindsight. Pulse audio was a great improvement over what was available at the time and systemd is IMO better than any alternative it replaced.

egberts1 4y ago
Bookmarked for my edification.
GekkePrutser 4y ago
The dark patterns he used to push systemd through is another reason. Making unrelated things dependent on it. Personally I think the Linux world follows redhat way too closely. Especially since it's really IBM now. But I'm more open to pipewire because of this. Having nice people behind it is important too IMO.
- toyg 4y ago
  It's not that they follow, it's that RH does the heavy lifting nobody else wants to do (since RH devs are paid).
- Mikeb85 4y ago
  Blame the other vendors for not doing as much as Red Hat...
  - dTal 4y ago
    Sometimes, less is more. Red Hat has an incentive to replace old, established, boring and well-known technology with new, exciting, unreliable and unfamiliar technology, because their income comes from support services.
  - _abox 4y ago
    Well, Canonical does, to be fair. They just seem to be unsuccessful at gaining adoption. Part of this is my suspicion that they just do it to get their IP on the map (like with the snap store that only they can manage). But I would imagine that RedHat's goals are similar, after all they are a commercial entity too. Personally I don't really trust either and I lament the high level of commercial involvement in Linux. It's one of the reasons I use FreeBSD. And they are still doing very well in features. For example they had jails (real containers, not chroot) way before Linux had containers. I don't believe in "win-win scenarios" when it comes to commercialisation. In the end the commercial interests will always trump everything. I think RedHat's recent actions around CentOS are a good example of that.
coryrc 4y ago
Pulse audio was not an improvement in my experience. Uninstalling it improved my system every time. I don't use Bluetooth though.
- cuspycode 4y ago
  The standard procedure for me is uninstalling pulseaudio and installing "apulse", which is ALSA-glue for applications that depend on pulseaudio, e.g. browsers. And my experience with Bluetooth is that it works fine directly with ALSA.
nikau 4y ago
> all criticism is easy in hindsight I'm pretty sure he got similar amounts of criticism at the time

by kabes 4y ago

egberts1 4y ago

Bookmarked for my edification.

GekkePrutser 4y ago

The dark patterns he used to push systemd through is another reason. Making unrelated things dependent on it. Personally I think the Linux world follows redhat way too closely. Especially since it's really IBM now. But I'm more open to pipewire because of this. Having nice people behind it is important too IMO.

toyg 4y ago
It's not that they follow, it's that RH does the heavy lifting nobody else wants to do (since RH devs are paid).
Mikeb85 4y ago
Blame the other vendors for not doing as much as Red Hat...
- dTal 4y ago
  Sometimes, less is more. Red Hat has an incentive to replace old, established, boring and well-known technology with new, exciting, unreliable and unfamiliar technology, because their income comes from support services.
- _abox 4y ago
  Well, Canonical does, to be fair. They just seem to be unsuccessful at gaining adoption. Part of this is my suspicion that they just do it to get their IP on the map (like with the snap store that only they can manage). But I would imagine that RedHat's goals are similar, after all they are a commercial entity too. Personally I don't really trust either and I lament the high level of commercial involvement in Linux. It's one of the reasons I use FreeBSD. And they are still doing very well in features. For example they had jails (real containers, not chroot) way before Linux had containers. I don't believe in "win-win scenarios" when it comes to commercialisation. In the end the commercial interests will always trump everything. I think RedHat's recent actions around CentOS are a good example of that.

coryrc 4y ago

Pulse audio was not an improvement in my experience. Uninstalling it improved my system every time. I don't use Bluetooth though.

cuspycode 4y ago
The standard procedure for me is uninstalling pulseaudio and installing "apulse", which is ALSA-glue for applications that depend on pulseaudio, e.g. browsers. And my experience with Bluetooth is that it works fine directly with ALSA.

nikau 4y ago

> all criticism is easy in hindsight I'm pretty sure he got similar amounts of criticism at the time