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>> Sport is probably the worst possible analogy for any fair economic system. It promotes cooperation between people only as far as crushing your opponents team

>> Sport is probably the worst possible analogy for any fair economic system. It promotes cooperation between people only as far as crushing your opponents team go. How exactly exactly promotes cooperation between FC Barcelona and Real Madrid within it's rules ? Who would want to live in a world where there is place only for one winner? Remember when Zidane head-butted the Italian player and France lost the World Cup because Italy got a penalty shot? Because the referee called the foul. Because both teams agree to cooperate and respect the decision of the referee during play. If you didn't cooperate, no sporting even would be fun to watch. Soccer (football) would be about as much fun to watch as a brawl - which is what it would turn into. But both teams agree to guidelines on what makes a good football (soccer) game. Imagine a world without competition and you'll see a world that's dead inside. You'll see a world that drives Trabants and you have a 5 year waiting list for something like a Commodore 64. It's because Sony and Microsoft are competing for your gaming attention/dollars, or Intel and AMD are competing for your desktop, that I can have a nice graphical display on a computer that, inflation adjusted, cost me 1/5 the price I paid for my first computer in the 1980s.

v-erne 4y ago
>> But both teams agree to guidelines on what makes a good football (soccer) game This seems like a very useless definition of cooperation from the perspective of the discussion that we are having. Sure, following same rules is some form of high level cooperation but You could equally easy switch sport to something more extreme - war would be good example I suppose - and try to convince me that if both sides are abiding by Geneva Convention while killing each other then this is an equally good analogy. >> Imagine a world without competition and you'll see a world that's dead inside. I have to bring one of my favorite quotes into discussion, sorry You forced my hand :) : "That's just like your opinion man". I understand where you are getting this sentiment (my family used to have Trabant and I remember "good" old socialistic people republic times from my childhood) but I do not believe for a second that this is either or situation. I think that there is place for better, more sophisticated economic systems, that combines rules from current systems. The problem is that ideology is standing it their way.

v-erne 4y ago

>> But both teams agree to guidelines on what makes a good football (soccer) game This seems like a very useless definition of cooperation from the perspective of the discussion that we are having. Sure, following same rules is some form of high level cooperation but You could equally easy switch sport to something more extreme - war would be good example I suppose - and try to convince me that if both sides are abiding by Geneva Convention while killing each other then this is an equally good analogy. >> Imagine a world without competition and you'll see a world that's dead inside. I have to bring one of my favorite quotes into discussion, sorry You forced my hand :) : "That's just like your opinion man". I understand where you are getting this sentiment (my family used to have Trabant and I remember "good" old socialistic people republic times from my childhood) but I do not believe for a second that this is either or situation. I think that there is place for better, more sophisticated economic systems, that combines rules from current systems. The problem is that ideology is standing it their way.