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The political ruling class of the US sold out their people for short term gain (starting around the 60's or so). Working hard for a high trust, tight knight com

The political ruling class of the US sold out their people for short term gain (starting around the 60's or so). Working hard for a high trust, tight knight community is likely the ideal state for most people. The solution isn't retreating further and isolating yourself - the solution is figuring out how we can be a cohesive society again.

kilroy123 4y ago
I'd argue the early 70s. See: https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/ https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
- civilized 4y ago
  I find these charts interesting but don't buy the tie to ending Breton Woods. Society was just as capable of extreme inequality under a gold standard. See the Gilded Age. Globalization and the IT revolution also happened in the same time frame, and have contributed to inequality via much more obvious mechanisms.
  - kilroy123 4y ago
    This is very long but it goes into a well thought-out theory for why and how this happened. Very interesting stuff. Well worth a watch. https://youtu.be/1gEz__sMVaY https://youtu.be/1gEz__sMVaY
    - civilized 4y ago
      Anything other than one person's video? Videos take a long time to watch, and longer still to ferret out and check out cited evidence for the claims (if there is any).
MrLeap 4y ago
This is a challenge but I'm trying. I have a long and sordid history of overworking on things that did not give back anywhere near what I put in. I'm testing the thesis that it was because of power dynamics and ownership. I'm a year and a half into a project that I've worked on fullest time with max grit that I own completely. If it succeeds even a little I plan to build 3-5 dome houses on our rural land for indie gamedevs and artists to work on their personal projects for a year without rent. We'll only ask for a tiny percentage of revenue sharing just to try and make the thing self sustaining. A little forest moon base for dreams. I hope by not being parasitic and actually just helping people do the thing I have been struggling to death to do, it would move the needle a few atoms towards what you're describing. My greatest fear is that the system is so efficient that some how helping others is impossible, and I'll figure out why only when I'm dry. It's hard to imagine, but I haven't seen much help from the waterworld captains while I've been cobbling together my raft of flotsam. Maybe it's because sailing is hard and storms are kind of scary no matter how big the boat. Few grow old enough to find the time. Feel free to email me, especially if you're among that rare resplendent type.

kilroy123 4y ago

I'd argue the early 70s. See: https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/ https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

civilized 4y ago
I find these charts interesting but don't buy the tie to ending Breton Woods. Society was just as capable of extreme inequality under a gold standard. See the Gilded Age. Globalization and the IT revolution also happened in the same time frame, and have contributed to inequality via much more obvious mechanisms.
- kilroy123 4y ago
  This is very long but it goes into a well thought-out theory for why and how this happened. Very interesting stuff. Well worth a watch. https://youtu.be/1gEz__sMVaY https://youtu.be/1gEz__sMVaY
  - civilized 4y ago
    Anything other than one person's video? Videos take a long time to watch, and longer still to ferret out and check out cited evidence for the claims (if there is any).

MrLeap 4y ago

This is a challenge but I'm trying. I have a long and sordid history of overworking on things that did not give back anywhere near what I put in. I'm testing the thesis that it was because of power dynamics and ownership. I'm a year and a half into a project that I've worked on fullest time with max grit that I own completely. If it succeeds even a little I plan to build 3-5 dome houses on our rural land for indie gamedevs and artists to work on their personal projects for a year without rent. We'll only ask for a tiny percentage of revenue sharing just to try and make the thing self sustaining. A little forest moon base for dreams. I hope by not being parasitic and actually just helping people do the thing I have been struggling to death to do, it would move the needle a few atoms towards what you're describing. My greatest fear is that the system is so efficient that some how helping others is impossible, and I'll figure out why only when I'm dry. It's hard to imagine, but I haven't seen much help from the waterworld captains while I've been cobbling together my raft of flotsam. Maybe it's because sailing is hard and storms are kind of scary no matter how big the boat. Few grow old enough to find the time. Feel free to email me, especially if you're among that rare resplendent type.