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Your original claim was, > This looks like a lot of effort for pirated software, unless I'm missing something. This is false. Whatever law may protect Microso

Your original claim was, > This looks like a lot of effort for pirated software, unless I'm missing something. This is false. Whatever law may protect Microsoft from people being awesome & investing enormous effort improving their products for them- and I'm sure there are plenty such laws- this claim of piracy seems false. I do not see any product keys on the download page. These folks have no interest in helping piracy.

8organicbits 4y ago
No comment on the rest, I think we simply disagree on terminology, but the product key is visible when you click the download link.
- vore 4y ago
  The product key is a user-submitted comment on archive.org, I don't think you can hold the project owners accountable for this one.
gunhfgujh 4y ago
Eh it’s clearly a violation not to mention the trademark violations everywhere. it wouldn’t take much to go through the image to find unlicensed msft programs and likeness. Sometimes hn confuses how things ought to be reasoning from first principals with how they actually are.
- rektide 4y ago
  > clearly a violation It's awesome to me that no one can clearly state what this is a violation of, but we all tend to agree, yes, a rag-tag group of product-loving enthusiasts absolutely have no right to go poke around & make things awesome & cool & to improve the product. That's absolutely not ok. We agree. But we also don't even know why or how we got here & why that is. It's still not piracy.
  - CyberRabbi 4y ago
    There’s a difference between “what ought to be” and “what is.” I get that you think this project is cool and the authors are doing admirable work. I don’t necessarily disagree there but the reality is this is not legally defensible. It is a violation of copyright to redistribute software without the copyright owner’s permission. That is the definition of software piracy. Whether or not Microsoft pursues legal action is a separate matter.
    - TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
      Would that stop you from downloading and using it?
      - CyberRabbi 4y ago
        Yes actually.

8organicbits 4y ago

No comment on the rest, I think we simply disagree on terminology, but the product key is visible when you click the download link.

vore 4y ago
The product key is a user-submitted comment on archive.org, I don't think you can hold the project owners accountable for this one.

gunhfgujh 4y ago

Eh it’s clearly a violation not to mention the trademark violations everywhere. it wouldn’t take much to go through the image to find unlicensed msft programs and likeness. Sometimes hn confuses how things ought to be reasoning from first principals with how they actually are.

rektide 4y ago
> clearly a violation It's awesome to me that no one can clearly state what this is a violation of, but we all tend to agree, yes, a rag-tag group of product-loving enthusiasts absolutely have no right to go poke around & make things awesome & cool & to improve the product. That's absolutely not ok. We agree. But we also don't even know why or how we got here & why that is. It's still not piracy.
- CyberRabbi 4y ago
  There’s a difference between “what ought to be” and “what is.” I get that you think this project is cool and the authors are doing admirable work. I don’t necessarily disagree there but the reality is this is not legally defensible. It is a violation of copyright to redistribute software without the copyright owner’s permission. That is the definition of software piracy. Whether or not Microsoft pursues legal action is a separate matter.
  - TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
    Would that stop you from downloading and using it?
    - CyberRabbi 4y ago
      Yes actually.