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If modern cars and modernised networks implemented V2G (Vehicle To Grid) this would be a much easier issue to solve. Car owners would be incentivised to sell t

by edent 4y ago

If modern cars and modernised networks implemented V2G (Vehicle To Grid) this would be a much easier issue to solve. Car owners would be incentivised to sell the electricity in their vehicles' batteries back into the grid. Similarly, the grid could disincentive charging - either through surge pricing or flat-out refusing to supply electricity to high-power circuits.

option 4y ago
It’s not V2G but Kia EV6’s included vehicle to load feature makes me regret buying my Tesla (which does not support such feature)
salawat 4y ago
Of course, that surge procing would never be bidirectional, paying the end user when power is tapped into to go somewhere else, just to line the pockets of the utilities. Then there is the abuse potential. Because essentially you can now selectively increase electrical load on a particular vehicle with any type of on road charging or energy discharge infrastructure. But no... Authoritarians don't exist. No one would ever abuse wide-scale networked infrastructure to make their own lives easier!
- edent 4y ago
  That's simply not true. I get paid a surge price to export my solar power. The UK sets a minimum floor for export pricing, but companies are free to charge more than that. Thanks to the power of the free-market, I switched to a provider who did time-of-day export pricing. I (or rather, my battery) can decide to sell the electricity back during peak hours. And, as for vehicles, they'll slurp up whatever is pumped to them. They control how much load they're willing to take. Could abuse happen? Sure. But it sounds like the situation in Texas is already pretty abusive.
- gruez 4y ago
  This seems like the weirdest thing to worry about. If you're an authoritarian that wants to do bad things, you don't need V2G to do that. You can just hike the electricity rates.

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If modern cars and modernised networks implemented V2G (Vehicle To Grid) this would be a much easier issue to solve. Car owners would be incentivised to sell t

by edent 4y ago

option 4y ago
It’s not V2G but Kia EV6’s included vehicle to load feature makes me regret buying my Tesla (which does not support such feature)
salawat 4y ago
Of course, that surge procing would never be bidirectional, paying the end user when power is tapped into to go somewhere else, just to line the pockets of the utilities. Then there is the abuse potential. Because essentially you can now selectively increase electrical load on a particular vehicle with any type of on road charging or energy discharge infrastructure. But no... Authoritarians don't exist. No one would ever abuse wide-scale networked infrastructure to make their own lives easier!
- edent 4y ago
  That's simply not true. I get paid a surge price to export my solar power. The UK sets a minimum floor for export pricing, but companies are free to charge more than that. Thanks to the power of the free-market, I switched to a provider who did time-of-day export pricing. I (or rather, my battery) can decide to sell the electricity back during peak hours. And, as for vehicles, they'll slurp up whatever is pumped to them. They control how much load they're willing to take. Could abuse happen? Sure. But it sounds like the situation in Texas is already pretty abusive.
- gruez 4y ago
  This seems like the weirdest thing to worry about. If you're an authoritarian that wants to do bad things, you don't need V2G to do that. You can just hike the electricity rates.