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Any normal chess player can beat the best poker player in the world with a little luck. No poker player can beat the best chess player in the world unless they

Any normal chess player can beat the best poker player in the world with a little luck. No poker player can beat the best chess player in the world unless they aren't at their level already.

dwringer 4y ago
I believe over multiple poker hands that advantage from luck would quickly diminish and then disappear. I would be very surprised if any normal chess player, a total novice at poker, would be able to beat the best poker player in the world if they sat down to play for a couple of hours straight.
- Mikeb85 4y ago
  Variance in poker evens out over months, not a single session. A competent but not great player can definitely beat a pro in a single session.
  - cman1444 4y ago
    I think you're overstating the variance. If you watch high level poker play you will consistently see the same players at the final table of big tournaments. Sure, a few lucky random players will go pretty deep in the tournament, but they just don't do it nearly as frequently as the top few guys. A competent but not great player has a chance of beating a pro in one session, but it's definitely pretty slim.
    - Mikeb85 4y ago
      When poker players measure variance, it's $$$ over time. And while some pros are indeed good are surviving the bubble in fishy tournaments, none make a perfectly consistent income. Even amongst crushers, the variance can be massive. For every tournament you make a big score, you crash out of 5 and get min payout on a few more. Many of the biggest names in poker have been the biggest losers in a given calendar period. For example, Gus Hansen and Daniel Negreanu are two of the biggest winners of all time yet also have some of the biggest documented losses...
  - DarylZero 4y ago
    Not clear how long your "sessions" are but they have poker tournaments where the same people regularly make it to the top.
    - Mikeb85 4y ago
      Not as regularly as you think. Earnings vary a lot. As for how long a session is? 8 hours. I made a living from poker for a few years.
- jonahx 4y ago
  Skill would win out, but "hours" is not even the right ballpark. For comparison, 50K hands is a standard length for heads up matches between pros, with the understanding that even then the best player is not guaranteed to win. In live play, you'd be looking at 50-100 hands per hour. It's true that with a greater skill gap you'd need less time, but you'd still be looking at thousands of hands if you wanted something like 95% confidence that the better player was up.

Any normal chess player can beat the best poker player in the world with a little luck. No poker player can beat the best chess player in the world unless they aren't at their level already.

dwringer 4y ago

I believe over multiple poker hands that advantage from luck would quickly diminish and then disappear. I would be very surprised if any normal chess player, a total novice at poker, would be able to beat the best poker player in the world if they sat down to play for a couple of hours straight.

Mikeb85 4y ago
Variance in poker evens out over months, not a single session. A competent but not great player can definitely beat a pro in a single session.
- cman1444 4y ago
  I think you're overstating the variance. If you watch high level poker play you will consistently see the same players at the final table of big tournaments. Sure, a few lucky random players will go pretty deep in the tournament, but they just don't do it nearly as frequently as the top few guys. A competent but not great player has a chance of beating a pro in one session, but it's definitely pretty slim.
  - Mikeb85 4y ago
    When poker players measure variance, it's $$$ over time. And while some pros are indeed good are surviving the bubble in fishy tournaments, none make a perfectly consistent income. Even amongst crushers, the variance can be massive. For every tournament you make a big score, you crash out of 5 and get min payout on a few more. Many of the biggest names in poker have been the biggest losers in a given calendar period. For example, Gus Hansen and Daniel Negreanu are two of the biggest winners of all time yet also have some of the biggest documented losses...
- DarylZero 4y ago
  Not clear how long your "sessions" are but they have poker tournaments where the same people regularly make it to the top.
  - Mikeb85 4y ago
    Not as regularly as you think. Earnings vary a lot. As for how long a session is? 8 hours. I made a living from poker for a few years.
jonahx 4y ago
Skill would win out, but "hours" is not even the right ballpark. For comparison, 50K hands is a standard length for heads up matches between pros, with the understanding that even then the best player is not guaranteed to win. In live play, you'd be looking at 50-100 hands per hour. It's true that with a greater skill gap you'd need less time, but you'd still be looking at thousands of hands if you wanted something like 95% confidence that the better player was up.