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It was Labour that proposed fibre to the home and started rolling it out. It was the liberal party that stuffed up and had the confusing stance the NBN with st

It was Labour that proposed fibre to the home and started rolling it out. It was the liberal party that stuffed up and had the confusing stance the NBN with stopping rollouts of fibre and saying that copper was a better technology - they wasted a lot of money on this and it's now having to all be ripped out.

ggm 4y ago
Yes, but you're ignoring the proceeding ten years of fudging on internet policy. Have you forgotten senator Conroy? We'd have had FTTP if Labor hadn't stuffed up structural separation before the NBN debacle took off. If they'd not blocked splitting telstra wholesale from retail, we'd have had a single natonal agency running pits, poles, wires and fibre before it became electoral fodder.
- conz 4y ago
  According to this article, Telstra, not Labor, is responsible for sabotaging the original NBN project. https://www.afr.com/companies/telecommunications/row-intensifies-over-telstra-s-role-in-nbn-fiasco-20191016-p5317c https://www.afr.com/companies/telecommunications/row-intensi... According to this article, the LNP coalition were the cause of the subsequent abandonment of FTTP: https://delimiter.com.au/2013/09/07/fttp-dream-coalition-victory-kills-labors-nbn/ https://delimiter.com.au/2013/09/07/fttp-dream-coalition-vic...
  - ggm 4y ago
    Telstra was empowered and emboldened to sabotage because Labor was scared of taking it on. Because the union movement was sceptical of the outcome, and because the banking and finance sectors wanted to do it, which made Labor scared there was a hidden trap. De-mutualisation of electricity, telephony was hugely politicised. As it was, telstra was paid $11b for the transfer of its pits and some customer access network exchange infrastructure to the NBN and had paused maintenance so much, significant amounts of asset had fallen into disrepair.
    - conz 4y ago
      None of what you've stated changes the fact that the original plan for fibre-to-the-premises was derailed by the incoming coalition government under Abbott & Turnbull.
      - ggm 4y ago
        No. This is completely true. I'd far rather we had labor's fttp majority NBN than turnbulls MTM.
aaron695 4y ago

ggm 4y ago

Yes, but you're ignoring the proceeding ten years of fudging on internet policy. Have you forgotten senator Conroy? We'd have had FTTP if Labor hadn't stuffed up structural separation before the NBN debacle took off. If they'd not blocked splitting telstra wholesale from retail, we'd have had a single natonal agency running pits, poles, wires and fibre before it became electoral fodder.

conz 4y ago
According to this article, Telstra, not Labor, is responsible for sabotaging the original NBN project. https://www.afr.com/companies/telecommunications/row-intensifies-over-telstra-s-role-in-nbn-fiasco-20191016-p5317c https://www.afr.com/companies/telecommunications/row-intensi... According to this article, the LNP coalition were the cause of the subsequent abandonment of FTTP: https://delimiter.com.au/2013/09/07/fttp-dream-coalition-victory-kills-labors-nbn/ https://delimiter.com.au/2013/09/07/fttp-dream-coalition-vic...
- ggm 4y ago
  Telstra was empowered and emboldened to sabotage because Labor was scared of taking it on. Because the union movement was sceptical of the outcome, and because the banking and finance sectors wanted to do it, which made Labor scared there was a hidden trap. De-mutualisation of electricity, telephony was hugely politicised. As it was, telstra was paid $11b for the transfer of its pits and some customer access network exchange infrastructure to the NBN and had paused maintenance so much, significant amounts of asset had fallen into disrepair.
  - conz 4y ago
    None of what you've stated changes the fact that the original plan for fibre-to-the-premises was derailed by the incoming coalition government under Abbott & Turnbull.
    - ggm 4y ago
      No. This is completely true. I'd far rather we had labor's fttp majority NBN than turnbulls MTM.

aaron695 4y ago