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While respecting ethics (e.g. never asking someone where I was in a position of any power over, even if it was a volunteer student club), I respectfully asked o
by openknot 4y ago
While respecting ethics (e.g. never asking someone where I was in a position of any power over, even if it was a volunteer student club), I respectfully asked out the people where I did feel that kind of tension (in other words, I always asked out the people who I had a crush on when I was a teen, except when there were professional boundaries).
Unfortunately, I got turned down several times. One initially said yes, then quickly changed her mind within the hour, saying she wanted to avoid getting distracted from academics. So, I never had the opportunity to date in high school or my late teens, though I did have the chance in my early twenties.
As an aside: From a research perspective, I'm unsure if the feelings were mutual in many of these cases. As the Scientific American reports [1]: "Men were much more attracted to their female friends than vice versa. Men were also more likely than women to think that their opposite-sex friends were attracted to them—a clearly misguided belief. In fact, men’s estimates of how attractive they were to their female friends had virtually nothing to do with how these women actually felt, and almost everything to do with how the men themselves felt—basically, males assumed that any romantic attraction they experienced was mutual, and were blind to the actual level of romantic interest felt by their female friends."
I suppose that if my current partner were to tragically and unexpectedly wish to break up, I may be able to enter a new relationship after being very sad for a while. However, learning from my teenage years, I would likely avoid dating friends even if I perceive tension (to avoid changing the friendship, as I have in the past), as I don't think there is a reliable way to figure out if someone is interested according to research.
[1] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/men-and-women-cant-be-just-friends/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/men-and-women-can...
- vinceguidry 4y agoEthnicity can be a hard barrier to overcome for men, I've noticed. Guys from certain parts of the world seem to have a tough time navigating American social norms around dating and such. Perhaps where they're from they never interacted socially with the opposite sex. So they have a really tough time connecting 'normally'. And it seems to build this big wall between themselves and women, unnecessarily.
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- temptest1 4y agoIf it was about culture, ethnic men raised in the states would do fine. They are still heavily disadvantaged, it's mostly about women's extreme racial requirements in dating, which are often considered beyond criticism.
- denton-scratch 4y ago> Men were much more attracted to their female friends than vice versa. Interestingly, that goes against my experience. At university, there were a number of girls that I liked but considered way out of my class, that I later learned fancied the pants off me. There were also girls that I knew fancied the pants off me, but I wasn't having any of it, because I thought they were clingy, or too crazy (even for me). I'm pretty sure I dodged a couple of bullets back then.