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What workload do you do that 16GB isn't enough? Compiling large database backed .NET projects and Rust projects and AAA gaming all fit fine in 16GB

d4a 4y ago
Virtualization is one that I frequently do. Running a VM to test out programs (especially to test out Windows compat, or macOS if you're feeling up to the challenge). 16GB can barely run an additional VM, and if you have 30-40 FF tabs open, an IDE, and so on, then running with just 16GB of memory becomes very restrictive. Allocating 8GB to the (one) VM would leave you with 8 for the host OS, of which 2GB is going to be used by the kernel/WM, and leaves only 6GB to develop with.
fuck_google 4y ago
7speter 4y ago
Looking at docs in a browser
dataflow 4y ago
> What workload do you do that 16GB isn't enough? Run a C++ IDE on a medium-large codebase and you can very quickly run out of RAM.
czx4f4bd 4y ago
I'm using 18GB on Pop_OS right now and often use more. The main contributors are browser tabs and VS Code. If I closed out the projects I'm not actively working on right now and hunted down anything hogging RAM, I could get back under 16GB, but the nice thing about having 32GB is I almost never have to do that.
- easrng 4y ago
  I'm pretty sure browsers automatically expand their in-memory cache to fill the available space, things would probably work with less.
  - czx4f4bd 4y ago
    I mean, you're probably right to an extent, but I did actually have to close stuff periodically on my old laptop with 16GB of RAM.
rxhernandez 4y ago
I regularly see my thinkpad exceed 20 GB with vscode, YouTube music, and docker hosting a frontend, backend, and simulated load. I've been sitting at 27 GB for the past two days with PyCharm open as well.
- 83457 4y ago
  They are using as much memory as they can because it is available. Chrome is notorious for this. That is not a valid gauge for how much memory is necessary or even useful.
  - onli 4y ago
    How about the system freezing? Vscode compiling a flutter project with an Android Emulator open. Firefox with MS Teams, Jura etc, no tab hoarding. Sometimes chrome is open as well. Upgraded to 32gb and the freezes are gone. 16gb is not enough anymore for even such a modest workload.
    - usr1106 4y ago
      Electron is never modest. It's an incredible resource hog. Memory has become too cheap, people should think instead of just waste resources. The next generations will need to use an abacus again if this stupidity goes on.
alluro2 4y ago
My dev workflows on Manjaro with KDE typically required ~18GB RAM (VSC, nodejs, rust, elixir, mongodb, redis, docker, db mgmt tool, browser, mail client, Slack, etc). On MacOS (switched to 2021 MBP 14) basically identical setup is sitting on ~29GB. I think my example is extremely average and common.

d4a 4y ago

Virtualization is one that I frequently do. Running a VM to test out programs (especially to test out Windows compat, or macOS if you're feeling up to the challenge). 16GB can barely run an additional VM, and if you have 30-40 FF tabs open, an IDE, and so on, then running with just 16GB of memory becomes very restrictive. Allocating 8GB to the (one) VM would leave you with 8 for the host OS, of which 2GB is going to be used by the kernel/WM, and leaves only 6GB to develop with.

fuck_google 4y ago

7speter 4y ago

Looking at docs in a browser

dataflow 4y ago

> What workload do you do that 16GB isn't enough? Run a C++ IDE on a medium-large codebase and you can very quickly run out of RAM.

czx4f4bd 4y ago

I'm using 18GB on Pop_OS right now and often use more. The main contributors are browser tabs and VS Code. If I closed out the projects I'm not actively working on right now and hunted down anything hogging RAM, I could get back under 16GB, but the nice thing about having 32GB is I almost never have to do that.

easrng 4y ago
I'm pretty sure browsers automatically expand their in-memory cache to fill the available space, things would probably work with less.
- czx4f4bd 4y ago
  I mean, you're probably right to an extent, but I did actually have to close stuff periodically on my old laptop with 16GB of RAM.

rxhernandez 4y ago

I regularly see my thinkpad exceed 20 GB with vscode, YouTube music, and docker hosting a frontend, backend, and simulated load. I've been sitting at 27 GB for the past two days with PyCharm open as well.

83457 4y ago
They are using as much memory as they can because it is available. Chrome is notorious for this. That is not a valid gauge for how much memory is necessary or even useful.
- onli 4y ago
  How about the system freezing? Vscode compiling a flutter project with an Android Emulator open. Firefox with MS Teams, Jura etc, no tab hoarding. Sometimes chrome is open as well. Upgraded to 32gb and the freezes are gone. 16gb is not enough anymore for even such a modest workload.
  - usr1106 4y ago
    Electron is never modest. It's an incredible resource hog. Memory has become too cheap, people should think instead of just waste resources. The next generations will need to use an abacus again if this stupidity goes on.

alluro2 4y ago

My dev workflows on Manjaro with KDE typically required ~18GB RAM (VSC, nodejs, rust, elixir, mongodb, redis, docker, db mgmt tool, browser, mail client, Slack, etc). On MacOS (switched to 2021 MBP 14) basically identical setup is sitting on ~29GB. I think my example is extremely average and common.