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This seems to match with his behavior and persona. Having worked in tech a long time, I can say that culture is always set from the top. I've worked in organiza

This seems to match with his behavior and persona. Having worked in tech a long time, I can say that culture is always set from the top. I've worked in organizations where sexual harassment is tolerated; this is always because the CEO or founders regularly engage in it. We all know how rampant sexual harassment and misconduct is at Musk-owned and operated companies. If this wasn't the case, I would tend to side with Musk, but it's not so it adds a lot of credibility to this report, perhaps enough to tip the scale enough to put the burden of proof on Musk. If in fact it can be shown she was paid $250,000 (a lot of money for a flight attendant), it looks very bad for him. One of the things that I most hate about tech is the obsession and idolization over the founder, and how bad behavior by them is routinely tolerated. It always comes back to bite you in the end, and, at the end of the day, the founder would be nothing without their employees and engineers, who do all the hard work. With all the constant tweeting, public persona building, interviewing, is Musk really doing any work or adding any value to these companies? If he isn't actually involved in day to day operations, and all his value depends on his celebrity, he is in quite a difficult position -- not unlike a celebrity: one misstep and your entire career could be over. I do not envy his position. Smart people will only tolerate working for a chauvinist with an outsized ego for so long.

rlt 4y ago
> We all know how rampant sexual harassment and misconduct is at Musk-owned and operated companies. I don’t think this should be stated as fact without some references to back it up. I certainly hadn’t gotten this impression of Tesla or SpaceX.
- shalmanese 4y ago
  FTA: > Two of his companies, however, have faced allegations of sexual harassment in the past. In December 2021, the same week he was named Time's Person of the Year, four women who worked at SpaceX spoke out about sexual harassment they said they faced at the company, where Musk is the CEO. One, Ashley Kosak, published an essay recounting being groped and touched inappropriately by male employees while she was an intern. Three others — one of whom said she was bound by a non-disclosure agreement — recounted similar treatment to the New York Times. > In response to the reports, SpaceX president and chief operating officer Gwynne Shotwell sent a company-wide email saying that "timely reporting of harassment is key to our maintaining SpaceX as a great place to work; we can't fix what we don't know," the Times reported. She added that SpaceX will "rigorously investigate all harassment or discrimination claims and take rapid and appropriate action when we find our policy is violated." > And at least six women have sued Tesla, where Musk is the CEO, alleging sexual harassment at a Tesla factory. Men at the factory ogled women and remarked on their clothes, the complaints said, leading some women to wear baggy outfits and use stacks of boxes to obstruct the views of leering co-workers. Some of the women claimed they were retaliated against when they came forward.

rlt 4y ago

> We all know how rampant sexual harassment and misconduct is at Musk-owned and operated companies. I don’t think this should be stated as fact without some references to back it up. I certainly hadn’t gotten this impression of Tesla or SpaceX.

shalmanese 4y ago
FTA: > Two of his companies, however, have faced allegations of sexual harassment in the past. In December 2021, the same week he was named Time's Person of the Year, four women who worked at SpaceX spoke out about sexual harassment they said they faced at the company, where Musk is the CEO. One, Ashley Kosak, published an essay recounting being groped and touched inappropriately by male employees while she was an intern. Three others — one of whom said she was bound by a non-disclosure agreement — recounted similar treatment to the New York Times. > In response to the reports, SpaceX president and chief operating officer Gwynne Shotwell sent a company-wide email saying that "timely reporting of harassment is key to our maintaining SpaceX as a great place to work; we can't fix what we don't know," the Times reported. She added that SpaceX will "rigorously investigate all harassment or discrimination claims and take rapid and appropriate action when we find our policy is violated." > And at least six women have sued Tesla, where Musk is the CEO, alleging sexual harassment at a Tesla factory. Men at the factory ogled women and remarked on their clothes, the complaints said, leading some women to wear baggy outfits and use stacks of boxes to obstruct the views of leering co-workers. Some of the women claimed they were retaliated against when they came forward.