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My sister is disabled and has this problem. She has a pile of cash at home as a result of it rather than safe in the bank or in investments. Like, you'd think s

by brink 4y ago

My sister is disabled and has this problem. She has a pile of cash at home as a result of it rather than safe in the bank or in investments. Like, you'd think someone who's paralyzed has a life that's hard enough, but yet we've created infinite hoops for her to jump through still.

s5300 4y ago
- scarface74 4y ago
  - ghostly_s 4y ago
    - Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
      Bulk of democrat politicians, yes. Bulk of democrat voters, no.
      - turtledove 4y ago
        Yeah. Most Dem politicians aren't leftists. Many leftists vote Democrat out of, "what other choice do we even have. Not voting at all?"
        Spivak 4y ago
        Hell I bet there's even a sizable number of people who would be Republican's if it weren't for the fact their demographic has been personally victimized by them. Being gay, black, Hispanic, Muslim, but otherwise conservative puts you in such a weird spot.
        scarface74 4y ago
        There is nothing “conservative” about the modern Republican Party. The conservatives were run out in 2016.
        mbg721 4y ago
        Their views of what constitutes a family and how immigration should work are both pretty conservative in the traditional sense. Their economic and foreign-policy positions might be a complete nightmare-show.
        scarface74 4y ago
        Reagan threw his full support behind “amnesty” in the 80s. Bush went out of his way to not let 9/11 be an excuse to target Muslim Americans. McCain shut down one of his supporters cold when they tried to bring up the conspiracy that Obama was “a secret Muslim trying to bring Sharia Law to the US” and asked him to do his eulogy. But on the other hand, even Obama didn’t support gay marriage at first.
        turtledove 4y ago
        Wait, what are you saying about Bush? If there's one thing his admin is known for it's targeting Muslim Americans. But I'll agree, Dems still don't support gay marriage, pregnancy care, trans folks, etc. They just happen to be slightly better about it than Republicans are. Turns out being a minority in America is kinda a bad deal
        scarface74 4y ago
        https://www.commonlit.org/en/texts/president-bush-s-islam-is-peace-speech https://www.commonlit.org/en/texts/president-bush-s-islam-is...
        mbg721 4y ago
        Oh yes, "amnesty", that one-time thing where after we're done with that, the law will really mean what it says. How did that work out?
      - ghostly_s 4y ago
        I thought it was clear from my use of their trademarked term that I am talking about politicians, and I quite obviously am not talking about People Who Vote For Democrats but Do Not Identify As Such.
- logicalmonster 4y ago
  > The people in positions of power want her dead As a family member of somebody in that position, I can understand that it's easy to have that kind of emotional perception. However, as a logical matter, I can see how it is easy to make the exact opposite argument to yours. The government doesn't want to eliminate people who might be viewed as drains of resources. They want votes and voting demographics they can pander to. They want social issues they can shovel more money at and sneak some extra cash to their chosen friends. They want to hire tons of officials to oversee implementations for solutions to increase their fiefdoms and influence. They want a compliant voting block that is depending on them for just enough resources to survive so they'll be less likely to ever be non-compliant with any decrees.
  - agentdrtran 4y ago
    > The government doesn't want to eliminate people who might be viewed as drains of resources. They want votes and voting demographics they can pander to. Very curious, can you name any politicians that panders to disabled voters?
    - avs733 4y ago
      You’re misreading the post above. They want to be able to say things like “we passed this law to prevent fraud” or “we are tough on crime”. That the actions are counterproductive and hurt those they are meant to help us an externality not a goal.
      - renewiltord 4y ago
        Makes sense. You don’t want to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. If you can manufacture support through a thing it’s better to keep the thing around.
      - linux_is_nice 4y ago
        I know this is off-topic, but do you still happen to have the slides for your "Indistinguishable From Magic" talk from a decade ago?
- switch007 4y ago
  > Nope, it’s quite simple. The people in positions of power want her dead & see her as a drain on society no matter what she may bring to it (not that that should matter) This is exactly how the Conservative party in the UK feel. Every one of their policies oozes this sentiment. Some people might be shocked by your statements but I’ve dealt with and suffered the policies of the welfare department (DWP). It’s spot on
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by brink 4y ago

s5300 4y ago

scarface74 4y ago
- ghostly_s 4y ago
  - Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
    Bulk of democrat politicians, yes. Bulk of democrat voters, no.
    - turtledove 4y ago
      Yeah. Most Dem politicians aren't leftists. Many leftists vote Democrat out of, "what other choice do we even have. Not voting at all?"
      - Spivak 4y ago
        Hell I bet there's even a sizable number of people who would be Republican's if it weren't for the fact their demographic has been personally victimized by them. Being gay, black, Hispanic, Muslim, but otherwise conservative puts you in such a weird spot.
        scarface74 4y ago
        There is nothing “conservative” about the modern Republican Party. The conservatives were run out in 2016.
        mbg721 4y ago
        Their views of what constitutes a family and how immigration should work are both pretty conservative in the traditional sense. Their economic and foreign-policy positions might be a complete nightmare-show.
        scarface74 4y ago
        Reagan threw his full support behind “amnesty” in the 80s. Bush went out of his way to not let 9/11 be an excuse to target Muslim Americans. McCain shut down one of his supporters cold when they tried to bring up the conspiracy that Obama was “a secret Muslim trying to bring Sharia Law to the US” and asked him to do his eulogy. But on the other hand, even Obama didn’t support gay marriage at first.
        turtledove 4y ago
        Wait, what are you saying about Bush? If there's one thing his admin is known for it's targeting Muslim Americans. But I'll agree, Dems still don't support gay marriage, pregnancy care, trans folks, etc. They just happen to be slightly better about it than Republicans are. Turns out being a minority in America is kinda a bad deal
        scarface74 4y ago
        https://www.commonlit.org/en/texts/president-bush-s-islam-is-peace-speech https://www.commonlit.org/en/texts/president-bush-s-islam-is...
        mbg721 4y ago
        Oh yes, "amnesty", that one-time thing where after we're done with that, the law will really mean what it says. How did that work out?
    - ghostly_s 4y ago
      I thought it was clear from my use of their trademarked term that I am talking about politicians, and I quite obviously am not talking about People Who Vote For Democrats but Do Not Identify As Such.
logicalmonster 4y ago
> The people in positions of power want her dead As a family member of somebody in that position, I can understand that it's easy to have that kind of emotional perception. However, as a logical matter, I can see how it is easy to make the exact opposite argument to yours. The government doesn't want to eliminate people who might be viewed as drains of resources. They want votes and voting demographics they can pander to. They want social issues they can shovel more money at and sneak some extra cash to their chosen friends. They want to hire tons of officials to oversee implementations for solutions to increase their fiefdoms and influence. They want a compliant voting block that is depending on them for just enough resources to survive so they'll be less likely to ever be non-compliant with any decrees.
- agentdrtran 4y ago
  > The government doesn't want to eliminate people who might be viewed as drains of resources. They want votes and voting demographics they can pander to. Very curious, can you name any politicians that panders to disabled voters?
  - avs733 4y ago
    You’re misreading the post above. They want to be able to say things like “we passed this law to prevent fraud” or “we are tough on crime”. That the actions are counterproductive and hurt those they are meant to help us an externality not a goal.
    - renewiltord 4y ago
      Makes sense. You don’t want to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. If you can manufacture support through a thing it’s better to keep the thing around.
    - linux_is_nice 4y ago
      I know this is off-topic, but do you still happen to have the slides for your "Indistinguishable From Magic" talk from a decade ago?
switch007 4y ago
> Nope, it’s quite simple. The people in positions of power want her dead & see her as a drain on society no matter what she may bring to it (not that that should matter) This is exactly how the Conservative party in the UK feel. Every one of their policies oozes this sentiment. Some people might be shocked by your statements but I’ve dealt with and suffered the policies of the welfare department (DWP). It’s spot on

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