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> Then turn down the brightness On all my computers? And my phone? And my tablet? And my... You could say the same about sites where the body text is set unre

> Then turn down the brightness On all my computers? And my phone? And my tablet? And my... You could say the same about sites where the body text is set unreadably small. "Just zoom in!" It does not persist across devices, sessions, users etc the way a well-designed site would.

jeroenhd 4y ago
I have my phone on auto brightness and my displays on max brightness. Black on white is perfectly readable to me, even in the dark. I don't know what ultra HDR monitor you're using or what light sensitivity issue you may have, but I don't want to have to install addons in my browser because you can't find the brightness slider.
- TAKEMYMONEY 4y ago
  Light sensitivity issue? > I don't want to have to install addons Sounds like you don't need to, you're happy changing the setting in many places (every device), than one (a stylesheet) > because you can't find the brightness slider "Make the user fix it" was the old thinking. Now we consider a more robust set of platforms, devices and users.
  - userbinator 4y ago
    Now we consider a more robust set of platforms, devices and users. What a bunch of doublespeak BS for "now we want to keep the users stupid and unknowing."
    - TAKEMYMONEY 4y ago
      Nope, just a lot more device variety than 10 years ago, and a11y becoming more than just alt attrs. Put bright pink on bright yellow as hyperbole, there's such a thing a too much contrast in a color theme! Even monochrome. Users aren't unknowing, they know how to adjust the brightness whether the site is designed well or not. I said one was "changing the setting in many places."
  - jeroenhd 4y ago
    > Sounds like you don't need to, you're happy changing the setting in many places (every device), than one (a stylesheet) But now I need to change my settings or your site's stylesheet to make your text readable > "Make the user fix it" was the old thinking. Now we consider a more robust set of platforms, devices and users. Exactly, that's why you choose clearly contrasting text over blurry grey-on-white so that every device can display the text comfortably according to the characteristics and preferences set by the manufacturer (or the user, if the user disagrees with the manufacturer about what constitutes "too much contrast")
    - TAKEMYMONEY 4y ago
      "There's a difference between using 'soft black' and using low-contrast gray." > every device can display the text comfortably according to the characteristics and preferences set by the manufacturer (or the user, if the user disagrees with the manufacturer) Right, every device; seems complicated, requires intervention. That or, design the site well.

jeroenhd 4y ago

I have my phone on auto brightness and my displays on max brightness. Black on white is perfectly readable to me, even in the dark. I don't know what ultra HDR monitor you're using or what light sensitivity issue you may have, but I don't want to have to install addons in my browser because you can't find the brightness slider.

TAKEMYMONEY 4y ago
Light sensitivity issue? > I don't want to have to install addons Sounds like you don't need to, you're happy changing the setting in many places (every device), than one (a stylesheet) > because you can't find the brightness slider "Make the user fix it" was the old thinking. Now we consider a more robust set of platforms, devices and users.
- userbinator 4y ago
  Now we consider a more robust set of platforms, devices and users. What a bunch of doublespeak BS for "now we want to keep the users stupid and unknowing."
  - TAKEMYMONEY 4y ago
    Nope, just a lot more device variety than 10 years ago, and a11y becoming more than just alt attrs. Put bright pink on bright yellow as hyperbole, there's such a thing a too much contrast in a color theme! Even monochrome. Users aren't unknowing, they know how to adjust the brightness whether the site is designed well or not. I said one was "changing the setting in many places."
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  > Sounds like you don't need to, you're happy changing the setting in many places (every device), than one (a stylesheet) But now I need to change my settings or your site's stylesheet to make your text readable > "Make the user fix it" was the old thinking. Now we consider a more robust set of platforms, devices and users. Exactly, that's why you choose clearly contrasting text over blurry grey-on-white so that every device can display the text comfortably according to the characteristics and preferences set by the manufacturer (or the user, if the user disagrees with the manufacturer about what constitutes "too much contrast")
  - TAKEMYMONEY 4y ago
    "There's a difference between using 'soft black' and using low-contrast gray." > every device can display the text comfortably according to the characteristics and preferences set by the manufacturer (or the user, if the user disagrees with the manufacturer) Right, every device; seems complicated, requires intervention. That or, design the site well.