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The ACLU point was that they would watch for any injustice with a more astute mind and eye than you or anyone else here has. I don't think you have to worry abo

The ACLU point was that they would watch for any injustice with a more astute mind and eye than you or anyone else here has. I don't think you have to worry about alerting HN about Edward's unfair treatment at the hands of the US government. I think there are coalitions of lawyers that will be releasing press statements if something were wrong. There won't be. It's all excuses to enable a criminal to continue his run on the lam. The right way is however you feel is best, without running from the consequences under the justice system. I already said it a few times here, look to real patriots. George Washington, William Wallace, Alexei Navalny. Some had worse ends than others, all stood their ground till the end in what they believed. All men whose spirit will burn in the hearts of men forever. I know Snowden's story. His passport doesn't bar him from returning home, and he's not helpless in Russia. He can leave, he chooses to stay. He either has or is still seeking a Russian passport which says it all. Forgoes American justice for Russian servitude. There's your personal hero. The boat sailed on that guy, your depiction of him sounds like someone years ago before he engaged in a full speed sprint from justice. He has exposed himself for what he is. Just accept that the story continued to evolve on him and people see it. And the good news: the US will treat him fairly, and won't assassinate him. We could, easily. He ran from the world's longest standing democracy. Bad news: he's a Russian. That government poisons you just for speaking in public. Most people there wouldn't dare speak their views outside of their kitchen table. Irony for your "freedom fighter" will be given they despise traitors so when he pushes the wrong button, they murder him.

user3939382 4y ago
> watch for any injustice with a more astute mind What you seem to be missing is the fact that Snowden shouldn't be being prosecuted at all. He should be protected by the Whistleblower Protection Act. He shouldn't be "hiding" or "running" or whatever you'd like to call it because there shouldn't be anything to run or hide from. The second the evidence he presented was looked into the DOJ should have immediately dropped any charges against him, he should have been pardoned to protect him from any future prosecution, and he should have been awarded the medal of honor. You're starting from this flawed premise that he needs to "face the music for his crimes" which is just completely fallacious. I couldn't care less what country he's in, again not the point. The point is the US doubled down on its crimes by not only committing them but illegally trying to prosecute someone who exposed them. For whatever reason or axe you have to grind you refuse to recognize any of that.
- BuckRogers 4y ago
  Again, Constitutional scholar. I don't buy any of this. I wouldn't want him to face injustice either. I don't buy it that this guy is innocent and blameless. He needs to face an open and free trial here in the USA. Let's have it out. Everyone will be heard. It'll likely be on CourtTV for you. No need for conspiracy theories and excuses for him. Let's see the freedom fighter nut up. It does matter what country he's in, all of these circumstances are suggestive of one thing or another. No reason to stick the head in the sand. I have no axe to grind. I'm just an average person calling this guy out as I see him. I wanted to present an unpopular viewpoint on him on HN that isn't heard often, or one that people are scared of saying out loud in fear of the aimless mob tarring and feathering them for. I simply don't care, I'll speak out every time, and I'm always willing to bear any cross required for it, unlike Eddy.

user3939382 4y ago

> watch for any injustice with a more astute mind What you seem to be missing is the fact that Snowden shouldn't be being prosecuted at all. He should be protected by the Whistleblower Protection Act. He shouldn't be "hiding" or "running" or whatever you'd like to call it because there shouldn't be anything to run or hide from. The second the evidence he presented was looked into the DOJ should have immediately dropped any charges against him, he should have been pardoned to protect him from any future prosecution, and he should have been awarded the medal of honor. You're starting from this flawed premise that he needs to "face the music for his crimes" which is just completely fallacious. I couldn't care less what country he's in, again not the point. The point is the US doubled down on its crimes by not only committing them but illegally trying to prosecute someone who exposed them. For whatever reason or axe you have to grind you refuse to recognize any of that.

BuckRogers 4y ago
Again, Constitutional scholar. I don't buy any of this. I wouldn't want him to face injustice either. I don't buy it that this guy is innocent and blameless. He needs to face an open and free trial here in the USA. Let's have it out. Everyone will be heard. It'll likely be on CourtTV for you. No need for conspiracy theories and excuses for him. Let's see the freedom fighter nut up. It does matter what country he's in, all of these circumstances are suggestive of one thing or another. No reason to stick the head in the sand. I have no axe to grind. I'm just an average person calling this guy out as I see him. I wanted to present an unpopular viewpoint on him on HN that isn't heard often, or one that people are scared of saying out loud in fear of the aimless mob tarring and feathering them for. I simply don't care, I'll speak out every time, and I'm always willing to bear any cross required for it, unlike Eddy.