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rr808 4y ago
Everyone I know in non-tech jobs work minimum 40 hours a week. I know a bunch of people doing minimum wage jobs doing 80+ hours a week. I remember tech in the early days (and still at many jobs) working dawn to dusk. Now it seems developers are choosing between 4 day weeks and 6 hours/day? the job market is going to get a rude awakening.
- freedom2099 4y ago
  Software engineers are hardly minimum wage jobs! And the human brain can’t sustain constant thought intensive tasks for long period of times continually… The dawn to dusk (if ever happened… I guess it depends on the country) it’s just a waste of time. Anyway I live on France and here the official working week is 35h!
  - rr808 4y ago
    Agreed they're skilled jobs and you can't write code 50 hours a week. You can write code 30 hours a week then talk with users, have design meetings, do paperwork, do first level support etc. France is a nice place to live. Everyone working 35 hrs and being on holiday so often is a good reason its economy is slowly dying.
    - freedom2099 4y ago
      Better dead and happy than overworked and depressed trying to feel the void caused by not having a life with work!
- zackmorris 4y ago
  This is our failure. I got into tech in the 90s specifically to avoid the 9-5 dead-end job and ended up working mostly exactly that. But hey, we have billionaires now. If we want a 30 hour workweek, we need to deliver it to everyone in the world with real tech. No more phantom tech distraction BS. Solar. Permaculture. Robotic hydroponics. Real recycling. Personal digital assistants (and I don't mean tablet computers). Independent income streams beyond mining crypto and donating plasma. This stuff is so incredibly obvious but the entire weight of the global economy keeps us running the rat race instead of solving the real problems. Now work is just another form of escapism to distract us from stepping into our power and taking agency over our lives. The ultimate expression of tech is the 0 hour workweek and self-actualization for the entire human race.

how so.?

Everyone I know in non-tech jobs work minimum 40 hours a week. I know a bunch of people doing minimum wage jobs doing 80+ hours a week. I remember tech in the early days (and still at many jobs) working dawn to dusk. Now it seems developers are choosing between 4 day weeks and 6 hours/day? the job market is going to get a rude awakening.

freedom2099 4y ago
Software engineers are hardly minimum wage jobs! And the human brain can’t sustain constant thought intensive tasks for long period of times continually… The dawn to dusk (if ever happened… I guess it depends on the country) it’s just a waste of time. Anyway I live on France and here the official working week is 35h!
- rr808 4y ago
  Agreed they're skilled jobs and you can't write code 50 hours a week. You can write code 30 hours a week then talk with users, have design meetings, do paperwork, do first level support etc. France is a nice place to live. Everyone working 35 hrs and being on holiday so often is a good reason its economy is slowly dying.
  - freedom2099 4y ago
    Better dead and happy than overworked and depressed trying to feel the void caused by not having a life with work!
zackmorris 4y ago
This is our failure. I got into tech in the 90s specifically to avoid the 9-5 dead-end job and ended up working mostly exactly that. But hey, we have billionaires now. If we want a 30 hour workweek, we need to deliver it to everyone in the world with real tech. No more phantom tech distraction BS. Solar. Permaculture. Robotic hydroponics. Real recycling. Personal digital assistants (and I don't mean tablet computers). Independent income streams beyond mining crypto and donating plasma. This stuff is so incredibly obvious but the entire weight of the global economy keeps us running the rat race instead of solving the real problems. Now work is just another form of escapism to distract us from stepping into our power and taking agency over our lives. The ultimate expression of tech is the 0 hour workweek and self-actualization for the entire human race.