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Why not both? 4 days, 6 hours each. Hey employers reading this. Having a hard time finding software engineers? Offer me this and I will come running. I’ll be b
by Apreche 4y ago
Why not both? 4 days, 6 hours each.
Hey employers reading this. Having a hard time finding software engineers? Offer me this and I will come running. I’ll be banging on your door with my resume. Think about it.
- Closi 4y agoAre you willing to get paid 24/37 = 64% of a fulltime positions salary? If so, I think plenty of smaller employers would be happy to do this.
- quickthrower2 4y agoNope. I will do more than 24/37 of the work. Probably in terms of value, just as much. (Just let me also choose what to work on and which meetings to attend)
- unglaublich 4y agoThat's the irony. Output doesn't scale linearly with time for human workers.
- shippintoboston 4y agoI like how these proposals never get raised when it's the companies that suppress wages or hoard more wealth generated by their employees.
- rmetzler 4y agoYour calculation assumes that all working hours create equal value. I can say for me that on most jobs I had, I got like 80% done in the first 4 hours and 20% in the other half of the day. I regularly stop working when I can’t concentrate anymore and do some hours on weekend mornings instead.
- refurb 4y agoAt my old job we used to get Friday’s off if we worked 9 hrs the first 4 days. People just worked 8 hours and didn’t come in Friday’s.
- high_byte 4y agoOver here commute is part of work by law, so I assume it would count as 9 for most people?
- refurb 4y agoIn this case no, they just took the option to work less without making up the hours.
- v-erne 4y agoWhich country is this? I would love to have commute as part of work in my country. Fom the point of law employees materialize at work in the morning and than teleports to home in the evening (the creator of work code here must have been fan of star trek). I believe this kind of change in workers law would motivate employers to implement more sane WFH policies.
- refurb 4y agoSo basically the people who choose to live far away get subsidized? They work fewer hours for the same pay.
- v-erne 4y ago>>So basically the people who choose to live far away get subsidized? Sure, You can put it this way - if workers living close have problem with that they can move or select another employer (if they prefer commuting to actually working) >> They work fewer hours for the same pay. I would argue that You are using definition of work time that is beneficial for employers. For me every minute of commute to work is due to employers order (You have to be where I tell You). And thus is not owned by the employee.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y agoYes. In a heartbeat. Don't even have to think about it. And by the standards of HN users I make a poverty wage already. Cutting my salary to 64% would put me well under the median household income for the my state and the nation as a whole. And I promise I won't be less productive, because I'd be surprised if I did that amount of actual work as it is.
- erklik 4y agoHilariously, I have literally asked companies to give me a 4 day week and take away the salary for the last day. I don't care. I just want a free day, but nope, no-one bit .. even the "smaller" employers.
- high_byte 4y agostrangely I had encountered mostly resistance to this idea, but after staying persistent on this condition I finally got what I was looking for. before (and still) I would've imagined this would make sense to employers. even startups have this old fashioned mentality ingrained...
- Markoff 4y agoI am not paid per hour (I have availability roughly between 08-15, of course I am not paid anything for availability, I am paid only per finished task), but I would still prefer to lose 1/3 of my income to have 3 day weekend, because whether I have 100% or 66% of my income makes no difference to me, it's just money (same as now losing like 10% (maybe 20K EUR?) of my current savings in stock, some people would go crazy here to lose that amount of money, but I don't care), but extra free day each week is priceless.
- Apreche 4y agoDespite having fewer hours on the clock, I will still deliver the same software on the same timeframe. It’s the software I create that they are buying, therefore I should be paid the same. That being said, yes. As long as the salary is enough to maintain my standard of living, I will accept a lower salary to work fewer hours.
- high_byte 4y agofair enough. I wonder if there's a job board for this kind of jobs..?
- em-bee 4y agoyou'd think so, but on every job site i check, part-time jobs are extremely rare. and trying to impress in the interview before asking for part time is not an option.
- quickthrower2 4y agoYeah “trouble finding talent” and yet it is the tired old 2010s Google perks being offered. Cheap/free food, couches and pingpong. Offer low tech debt and good hours and get a queue form!
- ravenstine 4y ago> Offer low tech debt A company that actually takes tech debt seriously is worth it's weight in gold.
- SauciestGNU 4y agoLow tech debt would be ideal but even allocating sprint time to addressing tech debt would be a huge step ahead of many organizations, who just accumulate it until the house comes crashing down.
- zwily 4y agoYou can already find this. It’s called a “part -time job”. :)
- robobro 4y agoLet's go a step further: https://archive.iww.org/history/library/misc/Bekken2000/ https://archive.iww.org/history/library/misc/Bekken2000/
- yboris 4y agoThank you for this amazing link! 4-day-workweek arguments from 1986 !!!
- digisign 4y agoToo bad companies don't know how to hire, and will disqualify you when the first micro-flaw is found. So people running in with their resume makes no difference.