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I was born and lived in a small town in Italy for the first ~30 years of my life, with small breaks in Rome, Los Angeles and a few others. Then lived in Luxembo
by simonebrunozzi 4y ago
I was born and lived in a small town in Italy for the first ~30 years of my life, with small breaks in Rome, Los Angeles and a few others.
Then lived in Luxembourg, Singapore (two years each), and 9 years in San Francisco.
The noise in San Francisco was terrible. You could hear the highway at all times, and of course you could hear the trash truck 3 days a week, usually twice in the same night (1am or 2am, and 3am or 4am - how DUMB). My sleep quality, you can guess, was pretty bad.
I bet I lost 1-2 years of lifespan just for this. I'm not kidding, and please do not assume I'm exaggerating either.
And then of course the occasional gunshots (once or twice a year - I lived in the Mission district), of the frequent police or firefigthers sirens.
It often felt like VIOLENCE. A first world problem, yes (especially when considering that you are surrounded by homeless people) but violence nonetheless.
For the past 1.5 years I've been living mostly in Venezia, Italy. (you can call it Venice, I found that sometimes when I say Venice, without "Italy", people assume Venice in Los Angeles. What a dumb thing).
Venice is incredibly silent. You can occasionally hear a motor boat, but that's it, maybe with just a few contained exceptions (Campo Santa Margherita at night, where lots of youngsters gather to drink and make quite some noise).
I love it. I think you can fully understand only if you have lived for a long period in the countryside. Otherwise, it's really hard to understand the positive impact of a silent city, and a silent night.
New York will never be like Venezia, but I bet they can improve things a lot.
- biztos 4y agoMuch of SF is annoyingly loud, but much of it isn’t. The Outer Richmond can be super peaceful, so can parts of Noe Valley, and in Diamond Heights I could hardly believe I was in a city. Just to name a few places I know; there are plenty more. The noisiest place I lived there was 19th and Mission but even then, you couldn’t hear the highway. If you hate noise at night but want to be in San Francisco it’s totally doable, but you might not have a neighborhood bar or a walkable BART station. Venice is of course a special case: banning cars and motorcycles can get you a special kind of quiet. But aren’t the crowds of tourists annoying?
- spacemadness 4y agoI had the same experience as you living in a room facing the street in SF in the mission. I still have a form of PTSD from the motorcycles coming down our street at 3AM, people blasting music out of their modded cars, fireworks at the same hours, etc. I’m feeling stressed just thinking about it. I felt like I was being assaulted nearly every evening and it started to feeling like real violence like you mentioned. That experience made me really bitter about how areas of American cities are constructed around motor vehicles with zero enforcement of noise ordinances if they even exist. It also made me really bitter towards motorcyclists with loud tailpipes in general. Just a disgrace all around and a real societal failure for someone even slightly noise sensitive.