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Water bottles in Germany also recently started having these attached caps. I think it is a great start yet still way more has to be done. Especially since most

Water bottles in Germany also recently started having these attached caps. I think it is a great start yet still way more has to be done. Especially since most countries don't even recycle their bottles and plastic waste still. Doesnt matter if the cap is attached or not if the whole bottle isn't recycled.

throw__away7391 4y ago
I really like the wash/reuse glass bottle systems in Germany and other European countries. In addition to the environmental benefits, the bottles themselves are nicer in my opinion. We used to have similar setups in the US since forever, but they were discontinued with the introduction of disposable plastic bottles.
- Markoff 4y ago
  They are also extremely heavy, so they cost more to produce, more to transport and they are nuisance to get home.
  - throw__away7391 4y ago
    Many of my fiends in Germany get them delivered and they take the empty bottles back, others bring them home in crates and similarly just take the crates back to the store when they return. A lot of bottling is done locally (as it is in the US as well actually) so the bottles themselves aren't traveling that far. My impression is that this system works quite well.
    - Markoff 4y ago
      > Many of my fiends in Germany get them delivered and they take the empty bottles back And I assume this is done by charity for free, right? It works well if you don't mind spending lot of extra money for fixing the inconvenience of heavy glass bottles, which is not really solving any problem considering recycling rate in developed (EU) countries especially on plastic bottles. The effect of those few plastic bottles which won't get properly recycled is next to zero compared to other issues (let's look for instance at hypochondriacs using tons of respirators, usually very same people complaining about other people polluting enviroment), I suggest anyone who think glass bottles or plastic bottles with deposit are good ideas in developed EU to visit South East Asia to see how meaningless are these efforts.

throw__away7391 4y ago

I really like the wash/reuse glass bottle systems in Germany and other European countries. In addition to the environmental benefits, the bottles themselves are nicer in my opinion. We used to have similar setups in the US since forever, but they were discontinued with the introduction of disposable plastic bottles.

Markoff 4y ago
They are also extremely heavy, so they cost more to produce, more to transport and they are nuisance to get home.
- throw__away7391 4y ago
  Many of my fiends in Germany get them delivered and they take the empty bottles back, others bring them home in crates and similarly just take the crates back to the store when they return. A lot of bottling is done locally (as it is in the US as well actually) so the bottles themselves aren't traveling that far. My impression is that this system works quite well.
  - Markoff 4y ago
    > Many of my fiends in Germany get them delivered and they take the empty bottles back And I assume this is done by charity for free, right? It works well if you don't mind spending lot of extra money for fixing the inconvenience of heavy glass bottles, which is not really solving any problem considering recycling rate in developed (EU) countries especially on plastic bottles. The effect of those few plastic bottles which won't get properly recycled is next to zero compared to other issues (let's look for instance at hypochondriacs using tons of respirators, usually very same people complaining about other people polluting enviroment), I suggest anyone who think glass bottles or plastic bottles with deposit are good ideas in developed EU to visit South East Asia to see how meaningless are these efforts.