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Reading comments about this on "train Twitter" most people who are familiar with the industry seem very skeptical about how they want to source their own rollin

by dewey 4y ago

Reading comments about this on "train Twitter" most people who are familiar with the industry seem very skeptical about how they want to source their own rolling stock in such a short amount of time. Especially when you see how long it takes ÖBB and other train companies to get receive their trains they announced years ago. Curious to see how this will work out. More night train and night train competition is always good and healthy.

rob74 4y ago
Maybe the rolling stock itself won't be new - maybe they plan to rebuild old carriages? A few years ago, they could have bought DB's Talgo night trains (probably at bargain price), but now they were apparently scrapped because they didn't manage to find a buyer for several years (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talgo_(Deutsche_Bahn,_1994%E2%80%932009)#Weitere_Eins%C3%A4tze https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talgo_(Deutsche_Bahn,_1994%E2%... - German)...
MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
I suppose you're referring to ÖBB's Nightjet - didn't they buy the old sleeper cars from DB?
- Freak_NL 4y ago
  They took over the DB lines, incidentally bringing back sleeper trains from/to the Netherlands after a short absence, and I think rolling stock as well. ÖBB is certainly delivering on its promise. We took the sleeper train from Arnhem to Innsbruck and back just this month for a trip to the North of Italy (which is just two hours on the EuroCity from Innsbruck). The rolling stock is ageing a bit, but it's clean and has great service. I was also pleasantly surprised by the fast, no-fuss refund of 25% when our return trip was delayed for 65 minutes. After alighting, on the next train, I arranged for the €80 to be refunded in just five minutes of entering the relevant details through their chat bot.
  - MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
    Its a fun adventure. Feels like school trip with the bunk beds.
- dewey 4y ago
  Referring to these new ones that are not out yet as far as I know: https://www.nightjet.com/en/komfortkategorien/nightjet-neue-generation https://www.nightjet.com/en/komfortkategorien/nightjet-neue-... I'm unsure if these are refurbished old cars or completely new ones though.
  - MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
    Ah nice! The current ones are ok, but you can tell they’re old.
logifail 4y ago
> Especially when you see how long it takes ÖBB and other train companies to get receive their trains they announced years ago It doesn't help when major OEBB tenders end up in court due to someone allegedly screwing up a digital signature: https://www.railjournal.com/fleet/obb-set-to-retender-withdrawn-contract-for-186-trains/ https://www.railjournal.com/fleet/obb-set-to-retender-withdr...

by dewey 4y ago

rob74 4y ago

Maybe the rolling stock itself won't be new - maybe they plan to rebuild old carriages? A few years ago, they could have bought DB's Talgo night trains (probably at bargain price), but now they were apparently scrapped because they didn't manage to find a buyer for several years (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talgo_(Deutsche_Bahn,_1994%E2%80%932009)#Weitere_Eins%C3%A4tze https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talgo_(Deutsche_Bahn,_1994%E2%... - German)...

MrBuddyCasino 4y ago

I suppose you're referring to ÖBB's Nightjet - didn't they buy the old sleeper cars from DB?

Freak_NL 4y ago
They took over the DB lines, incidentally bringing back sleeper trains from/to the Netherlands after a short absence, and I think rolling stock as well. ÖBB is certainly delivering on its promise. We took the sleeper train from Arnhem to Innsbruck and back just this month for a trip to the North of Italy (which is just two hours on the EuroCity from Innsbruck). The rolling stock is ageing a bit, but it's clean and has great service. I was also pleasantly surprised by the fast, no-fuss refund of 25% when our return trip was delayed for 65 minutes. After alighting, on the next train, I arranged for the €80 to be refunded in just five minutes of entering the relevant details through their chat bot.
- MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
  Its a fun adventure. Feels like school trip with the bunk beds.
dewey 4y ago
Referring to these new ones that are not out yet as far as I know: https://www.nightjet.com/en/komfortkategorien/nightjet-neue-generation https://www.nightjet.com/en/komfortkategorien/nightjet-neue-... I'm unsure if these are refurbished old cars or completely new ones though.
- MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
  Ah nice! The current ones are ok, but you can tell they’re old.

logifail 4y ago

> Especially when you see how long it takes ÖBB and other train companies to get receive their trains they announced years ago It doesn't help when major OEBB tenders end up in court due to someone allegedly screwing up a digital signature: https://www.railjournal.com/fleet/obb-set-to-retender-withdrawn-contract-for-186-trains/ https://www.railjournal.com/fleet/obb-set-to-retender-withdr...