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These cars (and motorcycles) are terrible, but to be honest they're like... rare/anecdotal level terrible. They buzz loudly by once a few weeks in nice weather

These cars (and motorcycles) are terrible, but to be honest they're like... rare/anecdotal level terrible. They buzz loudly by once a few weeks in nice weather. Its bad, but its no... CAR ALARMS OMG I HATE CAR ALARMS SO MUCH its astonishing to me that our social contract says "its ok to blast an air horn endlessly in residential neighborhoods"

ironmagma 4y ago
How about we tax everyone based on the acoustical emissions their machinery creates?
- RodgerTheGreat 4y ago
  Then you're just legally codifying that it's fine to create noise pollution if you're rich. Taxes do not solve negative externalities. The shitheads who intentionally modify their vehicles to be louder would most likely be perfectly willing to pay extra for everyone around them to know how much they spent to be loud.
  - closedloop129 4y ago
    Increase the taxes until you can be grateful that somebody spends that much just to be heard. Why should taxes not solve negative externalities? If they don't solve it then they are just too low.
  - ryukafalz 4y ago
    Do it like Finland and scale the fines based on income: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/in-finland-speeding-tickets-are-linked-to-your-income https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/in-finland-speeding-t...
- cagenut 4y ago
  I've spent a stupid amount of brain time on this. Pi-zero's with a couple microphones, cameras, 18650s and a solar cell in a super rugged sealed ABS belt-case. Strapped to telephone poles, capturing make/model/license-plate of anything that exceeds X decibels for Y minutes. Posting a top 10 offenders automatically to the city website. Autogenerating sound-map-reports to show what the 95th% locations and causes are to target effective enforcement of EXISTING laws. Sure I see the dystopic surveillance society part, but technically we already have that. Wouldn't it be nice to have quality of life benefits from it instead of just military and marketing uses. I want QoL SLOs.
svnpenn 4y ago
> they're like... rare/anecdotal level terrible. They buzz loudly by once a few weeks For you. I live in Dallas, and it happens every single day, every few hours.
Fezzik 4y ago
If you live in a town with great outdoor dining near a main downtown-strip you will quickly notice that the same dingalings rev their modded cars trucks up and down the strip over-and-over-and-over-and-over again. Especially on Friday and Saturday evenings. It’s beyond obnoxious. Why grown men think this makes them look like anything other than petulant children I truly cannot fathom.
duskwuff 4y ago
Or, to combine two horrible things: car alarms that get set off by loud exhaust!

ironmagma 4y ago

How about we tax everyone based on the acoustical emissions their machinery creates?

RodgerTheGreat 4y ago
Then you're just legally codifying that it's fine to create noise pollution if you're rich. Taxes do not solve negative externalities. The shitheads who intentionally modify their vehicles to be louder would most likely be perfectly willing to pay extra for everyone around them to know how much they spent to be loud.
- closedloop129 4y ago
  Increase the taxes until you can be grateful that somebody spends that much just to be heard. Why should taxes not solve negative externalities? If they don't solve it then they are just too low.
- ryukafalz 4y ago
  Do it like Finland and scale the fines based on income: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/in-finland-speeding-tickets-are-linked-to-your-income https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/in-finland-speeding-t...
cagenut 4y ago
I've spent a stupid amount of brain time on this. Pi-zero's with a couple microphones, cameras, 18650s and a solar cell in a super rugged sealed ABS belt-case. Strapped to telephone poles, capturing make/model/license-plate of anything that exceeds X decibels for Y minutes. Posting a top 10 offenders automatically to the city website. Autogenerating sound-map-reports to show what the 95th% locations and causes are to target effective enforcement of EXISTING laws. Sure I see the dystopic surveillance society part, but technically we already have that. Wouldn't it be nice to have quality of life benefits from it instead of just military and marketing uses. I want QoL SLOs.

svnpenn 4y ago

> they're like... rare/anecdotal level terrible. They buzz loudly by once a few weeks For you. I live in Dallas, and it happens every single day, every few hours.

Fezzik 4y ago

If you live in a town with great outdoor dining near a main downtown-strip you will quickly notice that the same dingalings rev their modded cars trucks up and down the strip over-and-over-and-over-and-over again. Especially on Friday and Saturday evenings. It’s beyond obnoxious. Why grown men think this makes them look like anything other than petulant children I truly cannot fathom.

duskwuff 4y ago

Or, to combine two horrible things: car alarms that get set off by loud exhaust!