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> But Pennachio conceded he has modified four of the 11 cars he owns to enhance the rumbling of the engine, as a matter of pleasure, not safety. “Just to know y

> But Pennachio conceded he has modified four of the 11 cars he owns to enhance the rumbling of the engine, as a matter of pleasure, not safety. “Just to know you’re in a beefier man’s car,” he said This makes my blood boil. Fuck this guy. Fuck this guy. I hope he gets all his vehicles impounded.

t-writescode 4y ago
What’s funny is that I’ve heard true beefy cars. Audi R8s are basically silent when they want to be; and the Lamborghini I recall that I admittedly could hear from 6 floors up in an office building was being as quiet as they could be, low rpms and gentle acceleration and all, they just had *that bass*. Real, big engines super cars don’t actually tend to be noisy in city settings.
- ironmagma 4y ago
  Unsurprising to me. Good engineering includes efficiency, i.e. little energy wasted to acoustical output.
  - semi-extrinsic 4y ago
    No, that's incorrect. Low noise from a car means using several well designed mufflers on the exhaust (and ribs etc. on the air intake as well), which increase the flow resistance and decrease the power output slightly. And if you think about it, 1 horsepower is 750 watts. A 750 watt speaker system at full volume is extremely loud, but 1 horsepower is way smaller than the statistical standard deviation in engine output.
    - TylerE 4y ago
      Also, turbos. Lots of sound reduction there. Some economy cars don't even have mufflers anymore - the turbo is enough.
    - ironmagma 4y ago
      That’s one way low noise can be achieved. Another is by being more efficient like with electric cars.
      - semi-extrinsic 4y ago
        No, that's a complete non sequitur. Efficiency and noise production are not directly related, and can frequently be anti-correlated. Just to take an example, the single-speed helical gearboxes used e.g. by Tesla are a prime example of sacrificing efficiency in an EV just to reduce noise. Using a straight-cut transmission like they do e.g. in Formula E would be more efficient, more lightweight at the same torque rating, and a lot more noisy.
Buttons840 4y ago
I once had my catalytic converter rust open. I pulled off into a parking lot to turn around, and I was embarrassed at how loud my car was, just barely accelerating through the parking lot, I couldn't believe how loud it was. Does Pennachio not realize that every rust bucket 4-cylinder economy car is capable of being extremely loud?
etrautmann 4y ago
It’s infuriating when people choose to annoy thousands of others for their lulz. I agree, blood boiling.
- ryandrake 4y ago
  Do yourself a favor and do not look up “rolling coal” online.
  - etrautmann 4y ago
    I've been coal rolled in my prius at least three times. Somehow I find it funny/sad rather than infuriating.
xpe 4y ago
But how else is that guy going to demonstrate his elevated testosterone levels when he is driving a car? Or, wait... maybe his levels are low? Something seems a little off in either case.
mcbishop 4y ago
Now we have an electric car, and it handles fast acceleration so easily. By comparison, gas cars seem to painfully lurch forward. Modifying a gas car to make it louder just draws more attention to the struggle. Like its driver... it's trying too hard.
bradlys 4y ago
He does have a bit of a toxic masculinity thing going on there. Personally - I enjoy some loud cars and motorcycles but not the typical Harley types that roll by at 20mph wide open or the clapped out Chevy Tahoe with a rusted out muffler going from stop sign to traffic light. I’m more of a Ferrari 458, Fireblade, LFA, R8 V10, etc. type. High revving exotics and motorcycles - and tend to prefer their sounds as they are going somewhere not revving. I can appreciate some others - even my own non-exotic but special car sounds great to me. It’s one of the reasons I bought it - it sounded amazing from the factory. But people who modify the cars to seem more macho? Yikes. I listen to the sound for my own pleasure - no one else. Literally could not give a shit how it sounds to others. I know when I go for drives with others that sometimes they enjoy the sound too. It’s thrilling and definitely adds to the experience. Top down - engine screaming like a banshee - especially in a tunnel. It gives a real “race car” type of sensation hearing it come alive like that. It’s definitely something I’ve never experienced driving EVs and I’ve driven them faster than 99% of people ever will. Just tire squeal is all you get. Maybe a slight hum or what not. (Brake squeal I guess but again not my favorite sound…) Definitely not an auditory experience for an enthusiast.
neurocat123 4y ago
I find this sentiment rather unsettling. Who am I to deny someone else their fun in life? There is a Dutch retort to this kind of condescending remark: "who are you, the pope"? Last night, I had a discussion with a friend about how neighbours' noise complaints are ruining small-time, local run and operated cafes in the country (in Germany also). Noise complainants are becoming all-powerful to the point of unreasonableness. Can we accept that in society, asses exist that are going to behave like asses no matter what, and not micromanage/regulate literally every aspect of life. I dread this kind of society where we have a law dictating how long you have to cut your grass in your front garden.
- baron816 4y ago
  People doing what they want is fine as long as it doesn’t negatively impact anyone else. What really gets me here is that this guy is going out of his way to be obnoxious.

t-writescode 4y ago

What’s funny is that I’ve heard true beefy cars. Audi R8s are basically silent when they want to be; and the Lamborghini I recall that I admittedly could hear from 6 floors up in an office building was being as quiet as they could be, low rpms and gentle acceleration and all, they just had *that bass*. Real, big engines super cars don’t actually tend to be noisy in city settings.

ironmagma 4y ago
Unsurprising to me. Good engineering includes efficiency, i.e. little energy wasted to acoustical output.
- semi-extrinsic 4y ago
  No, that's incorrect. Low noise from a car means using several well designed mufflers on the exhaust (and ribs etc. on the air intake as well), which increase the flow resistance and decrease the power output slightly. And if you think about it, 1 horsepower is 750 watts. A 750 watt speaker system at full volume is extremely loud, but 1 horsepower is way smaller than the statistical standard deviation in engine output.
  - TylerE 4y ago
    Also, turbos. Lots of sound reduction there. Some economy cars don't even have mufflers anymore - the turbo is enough.
  - ironmagma 4y ago
    That’s one way low noise can be achieved. Another is by being more efficient like with electric cars.
    - semi-extrinsic 4y ago
      No, that's a complete non sequitur. Efficiency and noise production are not directly related, and can frequently be anti-correlated. Just to take an example, the single-speed helical gearboxes used e.g. by Tesla are a prime example of sacrificing efficiency in an EV just to reduce noise. Using a straight-cut transmission like they do e.g. in Formula E would be more efficient, more lightweight at the same torque rating, and a lot more noisy.

Buttons840 4y ago

I once had my catalytic converter rust open. I pulled off into a parking lot to turn around, and I was embarrassed at how loud my car was, just barely accelerating through the parking lot, I couldn't believe how loud it was. Does Pennachio not realize that every rust bucket 4-cylinder economy car is capable of being extremely loud?

etrautmann 4y ago

It’s infuriating when people choose to annoy thousands of others for their lulz. I agree, blood boiling.

ryandrake 4y ago
Do yourself a favor and do not look up “rolling coal” online.
- etrautmann 4y ago
  I've been coal rolled in my prius at least three times. Somehow I find it funny/sad rather than infuriating.

xpe 4y ago

But how else is that guy going to demonstrate his elevated testosterone levels when he is driving a car? Or, wait... maybe his levels are low? Something seems a little off in either case.

mcbishop 4y ago

Now we have an electric car, and it handles fast acceleration so easily. By comparison, gas cars seem to painfully lurch forward. Modifying a gas car to make it louder just draws more attention to the struggle. Like its driver... it's trying too hard.

bradlys 4y ago

He does have a bit of a toxic masculinity thing going on there. Personally - I enjoy some loud cars and motorcycles but not the typical Harley types that roll by at 20mph wide open or the clapped out Chevy Tahoe with a rusted out muffler going from stop sign to traffic light. I’m more of a Ferrari 458, Fireblade, LFA, R8 V10, etc. type. High revving exotics and motorcycles - and tend to prefer their sounds as they are going somewhere not revving. I can appreciate some others - even my own non-exotic but special car sounds great to me. It’s one of the reasons I bought it - it sounded amazing from the factory. But people who modify the cars to seem more macho? Yikes. I listen to the sound for my own pleasure - no one else. Literally could not give a shit how it sounds to others. I know when I go for drives with others that sometimes they enjoy the sound too. It’s thrilling and definitely adds to the experience. Top down - engine screaming like a banshee - especially in a tunnel. It gives a real “race car” type of sensation hearing it come alive like that. It’s definitely something I’ve never experienced driving EVs and I’ve driven them faster than 99% of people ever will. Just tire squeal is all you get. Maybe a slight hum or what not. (Brake squeal I guess but again not my favorite sound…) Definitely not an auditory experience for an enthusiast.

neurocat123 4y ago

I find this sentiment rather unsettling. Who am I to deny someone else their fun in life? There is a Dutch retort to this kind of condescending remark: "who are you, the pope"? Last night, I had a discussion with a friend about how neighbours' noise complaints are ruining small-time, local run and operated cafes in the country (in Germany also). Noise complainants are becoming all-powerful to the point of unreasonableness. Can we accept that in society, asses exist that are going to behave like asses no matter what, and not micromanage/regulate literally every aspect of life. I dread this kind of society where we have a law dictating how long you have to cut your grass in your front garden.

baron816 4y ago
People doing what they want is fine as long as it doesn’t negatively impact anyone else. What really gets me here is that this guy is going out of his way to be obnoxious.