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> In San Francisco right now there's no "entire life on farm" meat on the market. If I want to eat your "ideal cow" that eats _mostly_ inedible foods I have to

> In San Francisco right now there's no "entire life on farm" meat on the market. If I want to eat your "ideal cow" that eats _mostly_ inedible foods I have to buy land and raise it myself or get it alive from a farm. It's not a product one buys for human consumption. Cows in the US eat mostly human edible foods. Search for "100% grass fed beef". There are many ranches that sell it around the country, even in California. Some deliver, some sell in farmer's markets, and a few products are even available in markets like Sprouts.[1] The fact that it's not available in most supermarkets could be fixed. 1: https://www.sprouts.com/healthy-living/sprouts-butcher-shop-100-grass-fed-beef/ https://www.sprouts.com/healthy-living/sprouts-butcher-shop-...

paulryanrogers 4y ago
Can it be fixed and meet all the demand for beef today? And without making people poor in the process? Perhaps the solution is a mix of both: eat less meat and only eat sustainably raise meat.
- im3w1l 4y ago
  Grass-fed cows use more land and water than grain-fed cows. So no.
  - dendriti 4y ago
    Are you going to take your bucket out to the Great Plains and capture some of that water?
    - im3w1l 4y ago
      I can play that game too. Are you going to solve hunger by conjuring more great plains and have the cows graze there? Because that's the point I'm making. Grass fed beef cannot scale up beyond current production to solve hunger.
  - Ekaros 4y ago
    On other hand they can be grown where there is enough land and enough water... Just because parts of the world has lack of water doesn't mean there is lack everywhere. In many parts there is even enough rain.
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  - greggeter 4y ago
  - greggeter 4y ago
    https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/08/13/746576239/is-grass-fed-beef-really-better-for-the-planet-heres-the-science https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/08/13/746576239/is...

paulryanrogers 4y ago

Can it be fixed and meet all the demand for beef today? And without making people poor in the process? Perhaps the solution is a mix of both: eat less meat and only eat sustainably raise meat.

im3w1l 4y ago
Grass-fed cows use more land and water than grain-fed cows. So no.
- dendriti 4y ago
  Are you going to take your bucket out to the Great Plains and capture some of that water?
  - im3w1l 4y ago
    I can play that game too. Are you going to solve hunger by conjuring more great plains and have the cows graze there? Because that's the point I'm making. Grass fed beef cannot scale up beyond current production to solve hunger.
- Ekaros 4y ago
  On other hand they can be grown where there is enough land and enough water... Just because parts of the world has lack of water doesn't mean there is lack everywhere. In many parts there is even enough rain.
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- greggeter 4y ago
- greggeter 4y ago
  https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/08/13/746576239/is-grass-fed-beef-really-better-for-the-planet-heres-the-science https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/08/13/746576239/is...