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The article says: We continue to focus on solid Linux support, and we’re happy to share that Fedora 36 works fantastically well out of the box, with f

The article says: We continue to focus on solid Linux support, and we’re happy to share that Fedora 36 works fantastically well out of the box, with full hardware functionality including WiFi and fingerprint reader support. Ubuntu 22.04 also works great after applying a couple of workarounds, and we’re working to eliminate that need. We also studied and carefully optimized the standby power draw of the system in Linux. You can check compatibility with popular distros as we continue to test on our Linux page 322 or in the Framework Community 39. [0], [1] There's semi-official Linux support it sounds like! [0] https://frame.work/linux https://frame.work/linux [1] https://community.frame.work/ https://community.frame.work/

trelane 4y ago
"semi-official" is pretty far away from full support.
- Shared404 4y ago
  But just as far away from no official support, which is where we stand with most hardware that I'm interested in.
  - trelane 4y ago
    I don't get why you're not interested in hardware that fully supports Linux, and which comes with great support, but you do you I guess.
    - samtheDamned 4y ago
      because this hardware is uniquely repairable and upgradable and it has better linux support than most of the industry. Unless you just want another rebranded clevo laptop this is very good.
      - trelane 4y ago
        Framework is not that different from System76 afaict. Except Framework has no CoreBoot and no Linux support.
        frickinLasers 4y ago
        First, "no linux support" is disingenuous. Second, with a Framework you can replace a USB-c port with a 1TB expansion card, or with an Ethernet port, or whatever is in stock. Those who bought the first model can now upgrade to a next-gen processor and/or reinforced lid, without throwing the whole laptop away. While System76 has surprisingly lower prices than I expected, it does not appear to have similar features--you still have to replace the entire system whenever your Pangolin becomes obsolete in 3 years. Framework was always more about sustainability. They didn't anticipate the demand for Linux/FOSS stuff, but they're adjusting for that. Hopefully some future motherboard will have Coreboot, and I can buy that motherboard and pop it in my laptop.
        trelane 4y ago
        > First, "no linux support" is disingenuous Nope. If I can't file a ticket or call and get an issue fixed, that's not support. > with a Framework you can replace a USB-c port with a 1TB expansion card, or with an Ethernet port, or whatever is in stock. Those who bought the first model can now upgrade to a next-gen processor and/or reinforced lid, without throwing the whole laptop away. Ah, that _is_ a great difference then. Hopefully they get their Linux act together.
    - Shared404 4y ago
      I did say most. Next time I buy a laptop, it will be System76 or Framework, depending on which offering I like better at the time.

trelane 4y ago

"semi-official" is pretty far away from full support.

Shared404 4y ago
But just as far away from no official support, which is where we stand with most hardware that I'm interested in.
- trelane 4y ago
  I don't get why you're not interested in hardware that fully supports Linux, and which comes with great support, but you do you I guess.
  - samtheDamned 4y ago
    because this hardware is uniquely repairable and upgradable and it has better linux support than most of the industry. Unless you just want another rebranded clevo laptop this is very good.
    - trelane 4y ago
      Framework is not that different from System76 afaict. Except Framework has no CoreBoot and no Linux support.
      - frickinLasers 4y ago
        First, "no linux support" is disingenuous. Second, with a Framework you can replace a USB-c port with a 1TB expansion card, or with an Ethernet port, or whatever is in stock. Those who bought the first model can now upgrade to a next-gen processor and/or reinforced lid, without throwing the whole laptop away. While System76 has surprisingly lower prices than I expected, it does not appear to have similar features--you still have to replace the entire system whenever your Pangolin becomes obsolete in 3 years. Framework was always more about sustainability. They didn't anticipate the demand for Linux/FOSS stuff, but they're adjusting for that. Hopefully some future motherboard will have Coreboot, and I can buy that motherboard and pop it in my laptop.
        trelane 4y ago
        > First, "no linux support" is disingenuous Nope. If I can't file a ticket or call and get an issue fixed, that's not support. > with a Framework you can replace a USB-c port with a 1TB expansion card, or with an Ethernet port, or whatever is in stock. Those who bought the first model can now upgrade to a next-gen processor and/or reinforced lid, without throwing the whole laptop away. Ah, that _is_ a great difference then. Hopefully they get their Linux act together.
  - Shared404 4y ago
    I did say most. Next time I buy a laptop, it will be System76 or Framework, depending on which offering I like better at the time.