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Oh hey, Cockpit; I remember when this was started. It was the Red Hat desktop team's skunkworks project to make an actual good server UI after the last few atte
by Jasper_ 4y ago
Oh hey, Cockpit; I remember when this was started. It was the Red Hat desktop team's skunkworks project to make an actual good server UI after the last few attempts failed; I can't find any evidence of it, but I swear there was this ridiculous project to generate a "Linux API" by automatically combining every other API and adding prefixes and headers. That came down from management since "APIs" were the hotness.
The goal was to make in-roads on Windows Server-like deployments. "Cattle, not pets" was becoming uber-popular, but the thinking on the desktop team was that there was still a wide market for pets. People with toy servers, small businesses that just want a server inside their network, they all deserve UIs that don't require heavy sysadmin-ing.
I think it turned out quite nicely, and it seems it's still going!
- tjscott 4y agoAre you thinking of Augeas? That was a project inside RH to parse nearly every config found in /etc, and be able to view and modify them all from a standard API.
- Conan_Kudo 4y agoWas? It still is: https://augeas.net/ https://augeas.net/
- Godel_unicode 4y agoGiven the latest release was 3 years ago, was seems appropriate. https://augeas.net/news.html https://augeas.net/news.html 1.12.0 - 2019-04-13
- bonzini 4y agoIt's basically a pluggable lexer, it is stable. And especially new config files have standardized on some variation of INI, Toml or YAML so there's less need for app-specific parsing.
- mongol 4y agoStill seems active on github https://github.com/hercules-team/augeas https://github.com/hercules-team/augeas
- Conan_Kudo 4y agoThe website is not updated apparently. The last release was 1.13.0 last October: https://github.com/hercules-team/augeas/releases/tag/release-1.13.0 https://github.com/hercules-team/augeas/releases/tag/release...
- mutant 4y agoI'd never heard of this, what a cool project!
- RulerOf 4y agoI wanted to parse INI files a few weeks back and briefly looked at Augeas... the augtool syntax was a little too nonsensical or verbose for me. Felt like I had to be an expert with the entire tool even though all I wanted was 3% of its functionality. I looked a little harder and then found jc[1] which made parsing the ini file easy, and since I didn't need full CRUD support I threw my hands up and used that instead. I _would_ like to find a fast and easy way to convert json/yaml to simple INI file syntax at the command line, or do idempotent modifications to the INI files without writing a command where 99% of it is describing to jq or awk what an INI file looks like. [1]: https://github.com/kellyjonbrazil/jc https://github.com/kellyjonbrazil/jc
- CameronNemo 4y agoIsn't this Martin Pitt's project? And it says it started in 2013. He was working for Canonical until 2014 IIRC. I would not be surprised if Red Hat scooped him up after this project was launched. Hard to know the timeline, though.
- Jasper_ 4y agoIt was started in 2012 by David Zeuthen, Colin Walters and Marius Vollmer. Martin Pitt wouldn't be hired until way later.