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On System76...

2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
Pop OS on a Dell XPS is giving me good battery life. If you already have your machine and files are backed up, worth a shot.
- 420official 4y ago
  I didn't have the same experience with pop on a newer XPS. I wasn't able to get more than 4 hours on a full charge.
  - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
    I’m on a 2020 XPS17. At the time I was having a hell of a time and it took almost a year for everything to be supported out of the box.
    - trelane 4y ago
      Why do people keep doing this to themselves?! I really don't get it. Just buy a laptop from a vendor that actually supports linux, like System76.
      - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
        Because there are countries out side of America. You may have heard of them.
        trelane 4y ago
        They also can get these devices. You may have heard that.
        trelane 4y ago
        Of course, depends highly on the value of "they". Because the "you may have heard..." pattern is worse than useless, here's actual info to compare and decide whether either of these may work for you: https://knowledgebase.frame.work/de/in-welche-lander-und-regionen-versenden-sie-r1899ikiO https://knowledgebase.frame.work/de/in-welche-lander-und-reg... https://system76.com/shipping https://system76.com/shipping Sadly, protectionism is a thing. Launching in new countries is hard and expensive. Perhaps there's a company in country that would do it better than some giant international megacorp.
        2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
        Framework does not ship internationally yet. System 76 does. But if I’m buying a laptop for work why would I get a laptop from a manufacturer that has no presence in my country? What am I going to do when things go wrong? Unfortunately, it may be better to take a punt on a manufacturer with global presence.
        trelane 4y ago
        Then you get what you choose.
- lukeschlather 4y ago
  "Good battery life" is not my measure of good power management. I can leave my windows laptop sitting out, it will sensibly turn off the screen and eventually hibernate, I don't need to worry about it. A Linux laptop will need babying when it's not plugged in.
  - trelane 4y ago
    Not necessarily
  - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
    Yes it’s horrible when I’m not plugged in and you have to shutdown before closing the lid for transportation. But if you want off windows and aren’t willing to go Mac, you take what you can get.
    - trelane 4y ago
      > Yes it’s horrible when I’m not plugged in and you have to shutdown before closing the lid for transportation. Why? Does it not hibernate?
      - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
        No it does not. If you’re not careful you’ll open your laptop bag to a hot and barely touchable laptop.
        trelane 4y ago
        Ouch.
      - likeclockwork 4y ago
        They usually suspend when the lid is closed by default rather than hibernating.
  - str34m 4y ago
    Gnome has power management features like that, didn't even enable them. It's the most installed DE I think, so your characterization of Linux is pretty off. I like Gnome and its newest incarnation Gnome 40, but at least on Nixos it has some issues so I often rebuild to an i3-based environment instead.

On System76...

Pop OS on a Dell XPS is giving me good battery life. If you already have your machine and files are backed up, worth a shot.

420official 4y ago
I didn't have the same experience with pop on a newer XPS. I wasn't able to get more than 4 hours on a full charge.
- 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
  I’m on a 2020 XPS17. At the time I was having a hell of a time and it took almost a year for everything to be supported out of the box.
  - trelane 4y ago
    Why do people keep doing this to themselves?! I really don't get it. Just buy a laptop from a vendor that actually supports linux, like System76.
    - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
      Because there are countries out side of America. You may have heard of them.
      - trelane 4y ago
        They also can get these devices. You may have heard that.
        trelane 4y ago
        Of course, depends highly on the value of "they". Because the "you may have heard..." pattern is worse than useless, here's actual info to compare and decide whether either of these may work for you: https://knowledgebase.frame.work/de/in-welche-lander-und-regionen-versenden-sie-r1899ikiO https://knowledgebase.frame.work/de/in-welche-lander-und-reg... https://system76.com/shipping https://system76.com/shipping Sadly, protectionism is a thing. Launching in new countries is hard and expensive. Perhaps there's a company in country that would do it better than some giant international megacorp.
        2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
        Framework does not ship internationally yet. System 76 does. But if I’m buying a laptop for work why would I get a laptop from a manufacturer that has no presence in my country? What am I going to do when things go wrong? Unfortunately, it may be better to take a punt on a manufacturer with global presence.
        trelane 4y ago
        Then you get what you choose.
lukeschlather 4y ago
"Good battery life" is not my measure of good power management. I can leave my windows laptop sitting out, it will sensibly turn off the screen and eventually hibernate, I don't need to worry about it. A Linux laptop will need babying when it's not plugged in.
- trelane 4y ago
  Not necessarily
- 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
  Yes it’s horrible when I’m not plugged in and you have to shutdown before closing the lid for transportation. But if you want off windows and aren’t willing to go Mac, you take what you can get.
  - trelane 4y ago
    > Yes it’s horrible when I’m not plugged in and you have to shutdown before closing the lid for transportation. Why? Does it not hibernate?
    - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
      No it does not. If you’re not careful you’ll open your laptop bag to a hot and barely touchable laptop.
      - trelane 4y ago
        Ouch.
    - likeclockwork 4y ago
      They usually suspend when the lid is closed by default rather than hibernating.
- str34m 4y ago
  Gnome has power management features like that, didn't even enable them. It's the most installed DE I think, so your characterization of Linux is pretty off. I like Gnome and its newest incarnation Gnome 40, but at least on Nixos it has some issues so I often rebuild to an i3-based environment instead.