Where do you get that anyone wants to strip anyone's rights away from within this conversation? We're talking about laws, which generally bind individuals to c

Where do you get that anyone wants to strip anyone's rights away from within this conversation? We're talking about laws, which generally bind individuals to certain behaviors. Laws do not make rights as far as I'm aware (and IANAL), they are "God-given." At least in US legal tradition, as I understand, the default position of the law is that you are allowed to do anything which does not infringe on anyone else's enumerated rights, and laws can only bind you from doing things which you would otherwise be free to do in the absence of those laws. If the laws which bind our behaviors are so complex they cannot be read aloud in their totality in any practical time period then how is anyone (let alone anyone whose profession is not "the law" or acting in legislature) ever to be expected to understand them as a whole? (Especially when certain laws have traditionally gone unenforced, to borrow from the original context of this thread.) The law should be possible to understand. That is a decent aspirational goal. I'm not sure what you think I meant but it's not what you said.