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How many construction projects have you managed? How many workers for particular jobs do you think is appropriate? Where did you get this information and why

How many construction projects have you managed? How many workers for particular jobs do you think is appropriate? Where did you get this information and why is it correct?

ErikVandeWater 4y ago
Were you offended by my comment? I'm asking someone familiar with the industry exactly because I don't know the answers.
- netizen-936824 4y ago
  Not quite, I'm offended by people assuming they know the correct answer about something and making baseless assertions. Asking your friend first would have been the move This is something that seems to happen in the US on a constant basis. People just assume they know or understand things that they have never learned about nor had contact with and then we get people voting and making policy decisions based on that info that was pulled out of someone's ass
  - justin66 4y ago
    > This is something that seems to happen in the US on a constant basis. People just assume they know or understand things that they have never learned about nor had contact with and then we get people voting and making policy decisions based on that info that was pulled out of someone's ass Thank God that sort of thing is limited to the United States.
    - netizen-936824 4y ago
      I know you're likely being sarcastic and I definitely understand. I can only speak to my experience and that's in the US, although I can't reasonably doubt that it happens elsewhere
  - ErikVandeWater 4y ago
    > Asking your friend first would have been the move How did you know I didn't ask a friend first? And second, if my friend agreed these are good questions, then I get to ask an expert? Or do I have to ask more friends? How many unknowledgeable people do I have to ask before I get to ask someone knowledgeable to get an answer? > Not quite, I'm offended by people assuming they know the correct answer about something and making baseless assertions. Thirdly, who are you to say any of my assertions are baseless? You don't know if any of my other experience is relevant enough to form a meaningful base on which to pose a question.
    - netizen-936824 4y ago
      Word and phrase choice indicated that this was your perspective as a driver I'm wondering why you chose to respond to me rather than the person who chimed in with solid experience and an explanation for you.
- pueblito 4y ago
  I paved highways for 5 years. The people standing around are because there is a surprising amount of manual labor involved. One example that isn’t obvious is raking. Sometimes rocks slip through the cracks at the hot plant and the paver leaves big rocks in the hot mix. There need to be at least one guy just standing around looking at the asphalt to get the rocks out and throw in replacement hot mix between the first and second rollers. Asphalt is mostly crushed rock, and you need different sizes of rock from fines to bean size. Part of the QA process is checking that the rock mix is composed of the right ratios and have enough faces to meet the spec. This is done with random samples from the asphalt as it’s laid down. They also check the temp, if it’s too cool it won’t work. So they mostly stand around. On the other side of the paving train is another QA where they use a radioactive density meter to check the asphalt after the rollers hit it, and they also take core samples along the joint to confirm the rollers are doing right. Then there is a guy from DOT supervising. The State owns the roads, he’s there making sure no one is cutting corners and to coordinate the train with the supervisor of the crew. Add in a couple more hands to rake/shovel (think guardrails etc) and it LOOKS like 5 guys working and 10 standing around but it’s 15 people taking turns in a continuously moving operation, often in live traffic
  - netizen-936824 4y ago
    Thank you for your in-depth response. I appreciate hearing from people with first hand experience on topics that I don't personally have experience with. There's things we don't think about when its so far out of our usual field of expertise.
  - antod 4y ago
    (non US perspective here) Another element is that a lot of the expense is closing the road, site management, safety setups, materials, having the plant (machinery) on site etc. Despite being visible, having relatively cheap workers hang around when their role is not needed 100% of the time doesn't add much to the overall cost. And you can't effectively redeploy them elsewhere to other jobs during those gaps anyway.

How many construction projects have you managed? How many workers for particular jobs do you think is appropriate? Where did you get this information and why is it correct?

ErikVandeWater 4y ago

Were you offended by my comment? I'm asking someone familiar with the industry exactly because I don't know the answers.

netizen-936824 4y ago
Not quite, I'm offended by people assuming they know the correct answer about something and making baseless assertions. Asking your friend first would have been the move This is something that seems to happen in the US on a constant basis. People just assume they know or understand things that they have never learned about nor had contact with and then we get people voting and making policy decisions based on that info that was pulled out of someone's ass
- justin66 4y ago
  > This is something that seems to happen in the US on a constant basis. People just assume they know or understand things that they have never learned about nor had contact with and then we get people voting and making policy decisions based on that info that was pulled out of someone's ass Thank God that sort of thing is limited to the United States.
  - netizen-936824 4y ago
    I know you're likely being sarcastic and I definitely understand. I can only speak to my experience and that's in the US, although I can't reasonably doubt that it happens elsewhere
- ErikVandeWater 4y ago
  > Asking your friend first would have been the move How did you know I didn't ask a friend first? And second, if my friend agreed these are good questions, then I get to ask an expert? Or do I have to ask more friends? How many unknowledgeable people do I have to ask before I get to ask someone knowledgeable to get an answer? > Not quite, I'm offended by people assuming they know the correct answer about something and making baseless assertions. Thirdly, who are you to say any of my assertions are baseless? You don't know if any of my other experience is relevant enough to form a meaningful base on which to pose a question.
  - netizen-936824 4y ago
    Word and phrase choice indicated that this was your perspective as a driver I'm wondering why you chose to respond to me rather than the person who chimed in with solid experience and an explanation for you.
pueblito 4y ago
I paved highways for 5 years. The people standing around are because there is a surprising amount of manual labor involved. One example that isn’t obvious is raking. Sometimes rocks slip through the cracks at the hot plant and the paver leaves big rocks in the hot mix. There need to be at least one guy just standing around looking at the asphalt to get the rocks out and throw in replacement hot mix between the first and second rollers. Asphalt is mostly crushed rock, and you need different sizes of rock from fines to bean size. Part of the QA process is checking that the rock mix is composed of the right ratios and have enough faces to meet the spec. This is done with random samples from the asphalt as it’s laid down. They also check the temp, if it’s too cool it won’t work. So they mostly stand around. On the other side of the paving train is another QA where they use a radioactive density meter to check the asphalt after the rollers hit it, and they also take core samples along the joint to confirm the rollers are doing right. Then there is a guy from DOT supervising. The State owns the roads, he’s there making sure no one is cutting corners and to coordinate the train with the supervisor of the crew. Add in a couple more hands to rake/shovel (think guardrails etc) and it LOOKS like 5 guys working and 10 standing around but it’s 15 people taking turns in a continuously moving operation, often in live traffic
- netizen-936824 4y ago
  Thank you for your in-depth response. I appreciate hearing from people with first hand experience on topics that I don't personally have experience with. There's things we don't think about when its so far out of our usual field of expertise.
- antod 4y ago
  (non US perspective here) Another element is that a lot of the expense is closing the road, site management, safety setups, materials, having the plant (machinery) on site etc. Despite being visible, having relatively cheap workers hang around when their role is not needed 100% of the time doesn't add much to the overall cost. And you can't effectively redeploy them elsewhere to other jobs during those gaps anyway.