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> He wants a boat car from the 1970s so he can get away from all the junk in modern cars Hope he enjoys getting single-digit miles per gallon, and you'll have

> He wants a boat car from the 1970s so he can get away from all the junk in modern cars Hope he enjoys getting single-digit miles per gallon, and you'll have to decide how you feel about him driving around in a car without modern junk like "airbags".

foobarian 4y ago
> Hope he enjoys getting single-digit miles per gallon But where will he find the leaded gasoline to run it???
- humanwhosits 4y ago
  the airport
- PaulHoule 4y ago
  The unleaded transition started in the early 1970s you can find plenty of boats that take unleaded gas. Of all the problems cars of that generation have the one that bugs me the most is poor rustproofing. You see people driving classic cars all the time in dry places like California and New Mexico but in Upstate NY road salt will eat a car like that alive if you drive it in the winter. So if we got a boat we'd need a garage to keep it in and another car to be a driver in the winter.
  - sidewndr46 4y ago
    You can't really rustproof against salt, at least for metals. It's an abrasive and it accelerates the chemical reactions on the surface of the metal.
    - marvin 4y ago
      Don't know if you've owned e.g. a 1980s Toyota Corolla in an environment that's always-wet, always-salted for six months a year like Western Norway. The difference to modern cars is night and day: The Corolla rusts to death in five years, as in you can stick your whole arm through the holes in the wheel well if the structural integrity of the chassis doesn't fail first. Whereas most cars produced after 1990 will last about two decades without owner rustproofing. You obviously can't dictate that all redox reactions will halt, but the manufacturers have absolutely done something that makes their cars rust slower. The "end-user rustproofing" we do here generally consists of spraying some super-heavy, super-sticky oil-based coating onto the metal so it doesn't get wet. But this obviously complicates other maintenance.
      - sidewndr46 4y ago
        If the manufacturer or the customer applies a thick heavy undercoating I think it can make a big difference. It's robust enough to resist the abrasive nature of the salt, at least for a while. The thing is I don't think manufacturer's like adding products like that as it messes with the fuel economy results. It's actually quite heavy, despite being just a "coating"
        carlmr 4y ago
        >If the manufacturer or the customer applies a thick heavy undercoating I think it can make a big difference. IIRC most manufacturers, at least in Europe, at some point started zinc galvanization, this prevents most rust from forming: https://www.fj.co/blog/land-cruiser-chassis-galvanized/ https://www.fj.co/blog/land-cruiser-chassis-galvanized/
        sidewndr46 4y ago
        The link you provided seems to be a niche company that specializes in reconditioning existing vehicles. Not a manufacturer of new vehicles.
        carlmr 4y ago
        It had some cool pictures of the process, that's why I linked it. In any case, most of what I find is in German. Like here it states that premium manufacturers started using zinc galvanization in the 80s: https://www.seat.de/service-zubehoer/technik-lexikon/k/karosserieverzinkung.html https://www.seat.de/service-zubehoer/technik-lexikon/k/karos.... It also says it protects from rust despite abrasion.
- bigbillheck 4y ago
  You can just use unleaded gas, you might have to replace valves and such but it'll work.
  - bluGill 4y ago
    Most cars ran just fine on unleaded. Unless you actually raced them, or otherwise worked the engine hard the rest of the car would die before the lack of lead killed the engine. Note that I live in an area where we salt the roads in winter. If you live in a dry desert old cars last a lot longer, and you might actually need to worry about your valves.

foobarian 4y ago

> Hope he enjoys getting single-digit miles per gallon But where will he find the leaded gasoline to run it???

humanwhosits 4y ago
the airport
PaulHoule 4y ago
The unleaded transition started in the early 1970s you can find plenty of boats that take unleaded gas. Of all the problems cars of that generation have the one that bugs me the most is poor rustproofing. You see people driving classic cars all the time in dry places like California and New Mexico but in Upstate NY road salt will eat a car like that alive if you drive it in the winter. So if we got a boat we'd need a garage to keep it in and another car to be a driver in the winter.
- sidewndr46 4y ago
  You can't really rustproof against salt, at least for metals. It's an abrasive and it accelerates the chemical reactions on the surface of the metal.
  - marvin 4y ago
    Don't know if you've owned e.g. a 1980s Toyota Corolla in an environment that's always-wet, always-salted for six months a year like Western Norway. The difference to modern cars is night and day: The Corolla rusts to death in five years, as in you can stick your whole arm through the holes in the wheel well if the structural integrity of the chassis doesn't fail first. Whereas most cars produced after 1990 will last about two decades without owner rustproofing. You obviously can't dictate that all redox reactions will halt, but the manufacturers have absolutely done something that makes their cars rust slower. The "end-user rustproofing" we do here generally consists of spraying some super-heavy, super-sticky oil-based coating onto the metal so it doesn't get wet. But this obviously complicates other maintenance.
    - sidewndr46 4y ago
      If the manufacturer or the customer applies a thick heavy undercoating I think it can make a big difference. It's robust enough to resist the abrasive nature of the salt, at least for a while. The thing is I don't think manufacturer's like adding products like that as it messes with the fuel economy results. It's actually quite heavy, despite being just a "coating"
      - carlmr 4y ago
        >If the manufacturer or the customer applies a thick heavy undercoating I think it can make a big difference. IIRC most manufacturers, at least in Europe, at some point started zinc galvanization, this prevents most rust from forming: https://www.fj.co/blog/land-cruiser-chassis-galvanized/ https://www.fj.co/blog/land-cruiser-chassis-galvanized/
        sidewndr46 4y ago
        The link you provided seems to be a niche company that specializes in reconditioning existing vehicles. Not a manufacturer of new vehicles.
        carlmr 4y ago
        It had some cool pictures of the process, that's why I linked it. In any case, most of what I find is in German. Like here it states that premium manufacturers started using zinc galvanization in the 80s: https://www.seat.de/service-zubehoer/technik-lexikon/k/karosserieverzinkung.html https://www.seat.de/service-zubehoer/technik-lexikon/k/karos.... It also says it protects from rust despite abrasion.
bigbillheck 4y ago
You can just use unleaded gas, you might have to replace valves and such but it'll work.
- bluGill 4y ago
  Most cars ran just fine on unleaded. Unless you actually raced them, or otherwise worked the engine hard the rest of the car would die before the lack of lead killed the engine. Note that I live in an area where we salt the roads in winter. If you live in a dry desert old cars last a lot longer, and you might actually need to worry about your valves.