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I wonder if this is sad because people took advantage of an obvious power dynamic, which would make her the victim... Or if she's in control of her destiny and

I wonder if this is sad because people took advantage of an obvious power dynamic, which would make her the victim... Or if she's in control of her destiny and a brilliant marketer. I mean this is clearly getting lots of attention and no matter if the story is correct or not, the myth of her sleeping with Meta employees might significantly raise her attractiveness for similar people, i.e. nerds with a high salary, i.e. her perfect customers. I wouldn't be surprised if this led to an increase in paid business by Meta employees. In that case, she would have converted a business issue into an opportunity.

raxxorraxor 4y ago
As a nerd with a good salary I find some suggestions here somewhat offensive.
funcantor 4y ago
Why do you assume the power dynamic is in a single direction
- ASalazarMX 4y ago
  He´s trying to identify the strongest power dynamic. The natural balance is towards Meta, since she needs more to have her account unbanned, but if it was also her plan, and it worked, it balances out. According to the tweet: "She said she got her Instagram deleted so she just started messaging Facebook employees on LinkedIn and having sex with them until one finally gave her her account back".
- pessimizer 4y ago
  Because her income depends on maintaining her instagram account. That's a material need, anything in the other direction is a rationalization. You might as well say a prisoner forced her prison guard to sleep with her by being so appealing.
  - throwaway0a5e 4y ago
    Literally everyone income is dependent on various types of enforcement authorities (HR, professional licensing boards, cops, osha, etc) not being on their case. I have a very hard time seeing anyone who manages to pull a fast one on some stupid bureaucracy as a victim.
    - oconnore 4y ago
      The enforcement authorities aren't on my case, though.
    - teawrecks 4y ago
      The only difference between this scenario and an actual porno setup is that the meta employee isn't a college professor who controls her grade. You could make the argument that it's only a power dynamic problem if the IG employee is the first to bring up sex, but if a college student offers to sleep with their professor to get a better grade, if the professor accepts are they benefiting from a power dynamic? I would say, very clearly yes.
      - throwaway0a5e 4y ago
        The hypothetical professor, or meta employee, is transacting business that creates a conflict of interest with their prior business relationship with their employer. This is little different from me tipping the safelite guy to lay a bead of sealant on some other stuff while he's at it.
  - dismantlethesun 4y ago
    A prisoner sleeping with a guard is an obvious abuse of power… if they remain imprisoned. I’d not know what to make of it though if the prisoner was freed though. It’s like bribing a cop to destroy evidence of wrong doing, rather than being forced to bribe them since they stopped you on the road. If the bribe removes you from their power then it changes the dynamic and moral outcome.
    - 4y ago
altairprime 4y ago
“Myth” is an interesting choice of word here. Her read of the policy is accurate enough, and certainly she’s right about sfbay tech workers being vulnerable to social pressure of this sort. Whether or not her story is provable, it’s absolutely plausible. I don’t envy Facebook trying to discuss their fraternal “unclose your account” policy in the same breath as the sexual promiscuity of their employees. (And I bet the infosec team is having a James Bond moment, too: imagine how many more people are going to try sleeping with tech workers for privileged access now that this threat surface is better known.)
- throwaway0a5e 4y ago
  >imagine how many people are going to try sleeping with tech workers for privileged access now that this is out.) Imagine how many accounts that were otherwise evoked a "eh, thotty but passable" repose from the arbitrators are gonna get banned now.

raxxorraxor 4y ago

As a nerd with a good salary I find some suggestions here somewhat offensive.

funcantor 4y ago

Why do you assume the power dynamic is in a single direction

ASalazarMX 4y ago
He´s trying to identify the strongest power dynamic. The natural balance is towards Meta, since she needs more to have her account unbanned, but if it was also her plan, and it worked, it balances out. According to the tweet: "She said she got her Instagram deleted so she just started messaging Facebook employees on LinkedIn and having sex with them until one finally gave her her account back".
pessimizer 4y ago
Because her income depends on maintaining her instagram account. That's a material need, anything in the other direction is a rationalization. You might as well say a prisoner forced her prison guard to sleep with her by being so appealing.
- throwaway0a5e 4y ago
  Literally everyone income is dependent on various types of enforcement authorities (HR, professional licensing boards, cops, osha, etc) not being on their case. I have a very hard time seeing anyone who manages to pull a fast one on some stupid bureaucracy as a victim.
  - oconnore 4y ago
    The enforcement authorities aren't on my case, though.
  - teawrecks 4y ago
    The only difference between this scenario and an actual porno setup is that the meta employee isn't a college professor who controls her grade. You could make the argument that it's only a power dynamic problem if the IG employee is the first to bring up sex, but if a college student offers to sleep with their professor to get a better grade, if the professor accepts are they benefiting from a power dynamic? I would say, very clearly yes.
    - throwaway0a5e 4y ago
      The hypothetical professor, or meta employee, is transacting business that creates a conflict of interest with their prior business relationship with their employer. This is little different from me tipping the safelite guy to lay a bead of sealant on some other stuff while he's at it.
- dismantlethesun 4y ago
  A prisoner sleeping with a guard is an obvious abuse of power… if they remain imprisoned. I’d not know what to make of it though if the prisoner was freed though. It’s like bribing a cop to destroy evidence of wrong doing, rather than being forced to bribe them since they stopped you on the road. If the bribe removes you from their power then it changes the dynamic and moral outcome.
  - 4y ago

altairprime 4y ago

“Myth” is an interesting choice of word here. Her read of the policy is accurate enough, and certainly she’s right about sfbay tech workers being vulnerable to social pressure of this sort. Whether or not her story is provable, it’s absolutely plausible. I don’t envy Facebook trying to discuss their fraternal “unclose your account” policy in the same breath as the sexual promiscuity of their employees. (And I bet the infosec team is having a James Bond moment, too: imagine how many more people are going to try sleeping with tech workers for privileged access now that this threat surface is better known.)

throwaway0a5e 4y ago
>imagine how many people are going to try sleeping with tech workers for privileged access now that this is out.) Imagine how many accounts that were otherwise evoked a "eh, thotty but passable" repose from the arbitrators are gonna get banned now.