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Salary range is available on request — but we're still figuring out what it is...
by corbet 4y ago
Salary range is available on request — but we're still figuring out what it is...
- 0x7E3 4y agoFrom Colo. Rev. Stat. § 8-5-201 >(2) An employer shall disclose in each posting for each job opening the hourly or salary compensation, or a range of the hourly or salary compensation, and a general description of all of the benefits and other compensation to be offered to the hired applicant. >Upon finding that an employer has violated this part 2, the director may order the employer to pay a fine of no less than five hundred dollars and no more than ten thousand dollars per violation.
- jacobsenscott 4y agoJust do what everyone in CO does and post a huge range. "$20000 - $100,000" for example.
- cure 4y agoDefinitely not everyone. For example, Google jobs have a narrow, specific range, e.g. https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/117083209834865350/ https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/117083209834865350/ =================== Additional Information (Colorado only) Minimum Salary of $198,000 - $212,000 + bonus + equity + benefits. Note: Disclosure as required by sb19-085 (8-5-20) of the minimum salary compensation range for this role when being hired into our offices in Colorado.
- jacobsenscott 4y ago"minimum salary of". So $212 isn't the top of the range. It is the top of the bottom. Bonus and equity are also not specified. So this is easily a $100,000+ range.
- monocasa 4y agoThey law only requires the salary portion of total comp when it comes to ranges, and a judge needs to think the range is reasonable if it comes to that. Everything else can just be a "general description", so "equity" in the description probably suffices for RSUs. And AFAIUI, they don't really have that much of a problem with actually hiring people a little above the range. It's thought that the labor market pressures of stating too low of a salary range cutting into your talent pool is an appropriate counteraction.
- jacobsenscott 4y agoSure - I know only salary needs to be specified. My point is, while the CO law (I live in CO) is a step in the right direction it doesn't have a lot of bite. There is still plenty of room for significant pay discrimination - like $100,000 of room.
- monocasa 4y agoI also live in CO, and know of specific cases where someone got popped for obviously too broad of a range covering most of the income percentiles. I agree that there's still room for discrimination, but it's a step up from what it was, particularly on the lower end of the scale. I know of a lot of people in the 50k-60k range that were able to increase their salary because of this law.
- monocasa 4y agoThat was the original loophole, but there have been judgements against employers for unreasonable salary ranges like that so you're seeing it less and less.
- jacobsenscott 4y agoThis is $128k to infinity, is it legal to just post the minimum salary? https://salesforce.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/Slack/job/Colorado---Denver/XMLNAME--Senior-and-Staff--Data-Scientist--Virtual-HQ---Slack_JR147067 https://salesforce.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/Slack/job/Colorado-...
- monocasa 4y agoProbably not. My reading of 8-5-201 through 8-5-203 seems to describe that as a violation. IANAL though.
- bigbillheck 4y agoI hereby request the salary range.