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I disabled ipv6 on my router because I prefer having a static IP.
by dncornholio 4y ago
I disabled ipv6 on my router because I prefer having a static IP.
- bush-bby 4y agoIsn’t it a lot cheaper to pay for a static ipv6 address?
- hypothesis 4y agoWhy would you pay for a static IPv6 address? It’s harder to memorize and if you’re using dynamic dns, then not much point in a static IP, is there?
- nybble41 4y agoThe point of having a static IPv6 address would be that you can use regular DNS, not dynamic DNS. With dynamic DNS you have to use a short TTL, increasing the load on the DNS server, and even then it will break occasionally due to caching when the IP address changes. Ease of memorization is a non-issue since you should be using DNS anyway, whether for IPv4 or IPv6.
- bush-bby 4y agoWell, I would say it depends on the use case? Maybe for accessing a couple services I would be okay w dynamic dns, but if I’m trying to host something where I’d prefer less points of failure and prioritize stability and uptime I probably would rather have a static address. (Please correct me if I’m wrong)
- 0xbadcafebee 4y agoA lot of people/companies still rely on IP filtering
- WorldMaker 4y agoStatic IPv6 isn't that much harder to memorize. Admittedly I'm often numerically dyslexic, but I even sometimes have a harder time with memorizing IPv4 addresses than IPv6. Particularly with the big trick that you can elide all the zeroes you want with double colon (::). At that point you just have to remember your subnet prefix and then all of your statically addressed devices you can think of as just {subnet}::N. Your web server can be thought of only as "::1" to you and your database server as "::2" and your combination printer and coffee maker can be "::3" to you, and you just have to remember to include your prefix up front (or copy and paste that part). Even a paltry /64 is just 16 hex numbers to memorize in nice 4 groups of 4 in the worst case that your ISP can't give you a bunch of trailing zeroes in your /64 request. (A /56 which is what most ISPs should give you per convention if you request a static subnet is 14 hex numbers in 3 and a half groups of 4.)
- magicalhippo 4y agoThe IPv6 prefix I get from my ISP is almost entirely "full", so the :: is only good for the latter 64 bits. I can imagine someone paying to get more zero bits in the prefix, or a more memorable prefix. For me I've just resigned to the fact that each of my IPv6 servers will require DynDNS.
- mort96 4y agoWhat exactly can you do with a static IPv6 address without a static IPv4 address? Most networks don't support v6 yet, so if you wanna host anything you need v4.
- bush-bby 4y agoIt was my understanding that had changed at this point. That most networks have the support but still prioritize v4. Is that incorrect?
- Hallucinaut 4y agoI believe Windows with Hyper-V (used for WSL 2) actually prioritizes ipv6 over ipv4 even. Not well, mind you, but that's a different story.
- charcircuit 4y agoI use one of the largest ISPs in the US and it does not support IPv6.
- School-Cotton 4y agoI live in New York and neither have IPv6 at work nor at home.
- WorldMaker 4y agoMost consumer devices today use some variant of the "Happy Eyeballs" protocol that prioritizes v6 to one extent or another, but "races" them (if IPv4 is faster to ping for a given DNS host it switches to IPv4 for that DNS host; otherwise it prefers IPv6). Things like NAT and CGNAT naturally slow down IPv4 so many consumer networks very heavily prioritize v6 in the "Happy Eyeballs" races.
- mort96 4y agoThe only time I ever have working IPv6 is when I'm using the cell network. No place I've worked, and no place I've lived, has had working IPv6. I'm in Oslo, Norway, so not exactly a technological backwater either.
- jrmg 4y agoHow are these two things connected?
- bsnal 4y agoI don't know if this is related but I've seen isps that put you behind a cgnat over ipv4 if you have ipv6 connectivity but they give you an ipv4 ip address just for you if you disable ipv6.
- magicalhippo 4y agoI have cable at home. I've had the same "dynamic" IPv4 address for 3 years, which is how long I've lived here. It has persisted multiple power-losses, some extended. On the other hand I get a new IPv6 prefix at least once a month, including every power-cycle of the modem and/or router.
- zauguin 4y agoTheoretically I would expect it to be much easier (and cheaper) to get a static IP with IPv6.
- zamadatix 4y agoTheoretically, in practice ISPs have been largely been handing out PDs and calling it a day (for consumers at least). This means you get many networks worth of v6 but they won't statically assign those many networks of v6 to you. That said they don't actively try to make them change and they aren't under pressure to use every last IP like IPv4 and for many carriers it's unlikely you'll ever have your v6 PD assignments change after a boot (ATT fiber is a good example). Of course if you do you're usually just shit out of luck as extremely few carriers provide the option to customers on v6 for whatever reasoning.
- FerretFred 4y ago> static IP And therefore easier to be tracked. If your device has an IPv6 address for life it'll be easy to build up some interesting time/location metadata...
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoYour IMEI already does that.
- cypress66 4y agoIMEI is not sent to websites
- zaarn 4y agoUse short-lived IPv6 addresses then. IPv6 doesn't force everyone into one or the other. You can operate both short lived, anonymized and permanent IPv6 side-by-side in the same network.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
- anthropodie 4y agoI'm curious why would they not give a static IP range to user by default? It's not like they are going to run out of IPv6 addresses.
- mortenlarsen 4y agoI was told by someone I met, who is working at my very cool ISP (Fiberby), that I should just as customer service for IPv6. One day later I had a static /56 prefix routed to me on a /64. I had just assumed that it was not an option, because hardly any ISPs have IPv6 here in Denmark.
- Aaargh20318 4y agoYou know IPv4 and IPv6 can coexist, right ?
- dcow 4y agoThis doesn't make any sense. Unless you're paying for a static v4 address you're not getting a static IP on your router either. You generally have to be on a business plan with most ISPs in the US for this type of feature. IPv6 and v4 are no different in that regard.