> But in reality the day-to-day work of Engineering was "build the shit that the product team defines", we had little influence in stories that went on each spr

> But in reality the day-to-day work of Engineering was "build the shit that the product team defines", we had little influence in stories that went on each sprint, and invariably every time we pushed for some technical matter, business always trumped us and the stories went to the backlog. in the end i think this is basically the unstated goal... no one can say it out loud because its a bad look, so they use an intermediary (some framework like okrs, or scrum etc) to attain that "business trumps engineering" culture...