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LNG goes point-to-point from liquefaction plant to regasification plant. There's no reticulation to city neighbourhoods. Gaseous hydrogen is much more dangerou

LNG goes point-to-point from liquefaction plant to regasification plant. There's no reticulation to city neighbourhoods. Gaseous hydrogen is much more dangerous than natural gas (flame speed, range of air fraction for combustion, ability to escape seals, etc., etc.) and you need three times the volume to deliver the same energy.[1] I doubt there will be much reticulated use. 1. https://www.powereng.com/library/6-things-to-remember-about-hydrogen-vs-natural-gas https://www.powereng.com/library/6-things-to-remember-about-...

ncmncm 4y ago
H2 will be mixed into the natural gas, short term. Longer term, plumbed gas will be phased out, as is happening already in New York.
- epistasis 4y ago
  I'm hoping we can convince gas companies to convert into district heating companies. It's still the heating business, and uses pipes and liquids. They could make heat pumps far more efficient by using ground sources of heating and cooling, and maybe even shipping process heat from one building to another. It would be a it of a shift, but it uses the same core competencies and would allow them to survive. However I don't think there's a single gas company with management with the vision, innovation, and smarts to make the switch. It would take a new generation of management, that's smarter and more forward looking. Maybe a shareholder revolt at one could cause a change in management that would pioneer this change... how much does a gas company cost?
  - lstodd 4y ago
    District heating is hell. Most ex-Soviet/Warsaw pact countries tried to move from district to direct gas, or small CCGT plants (as in one for about 10000 people) exactly for this reason: maintenance is hell and losses are enormous. And that's in high-density urban. In low-density suburbs it won't ever fly.
  - ncmncm 4y ago
    I like how you are thinking. Trick is to force them all to make the change.

ncmncm 4y ago

H2 will be mixed into the natural gas, short term. Longer term, plumbed gas will be phased out, as is happening already in New York.

epistasis 4y ago
I'm hoping we can convince gas companies to convert into district heating companies. It's still the heating business, and uses pipes and liquids. They could make heat pumps far more efficient by using ground sources of heating and cooling, and maybe even shipping process heat from one building to another. It would be a it of a shift, but it uses the same core competencies and would allow them to survive. However I don't think there's a single gas company with management with the vision, innovation, and smarts to make the switch. It would take a new generation of management, that's smarter and more forward looking. Maybe a shareholder revolt at one could cause a change in management that would pioneer this change... how much does a gas company cost?
- lstodd 4y ago
  District heating is hell. Most ex-Soviet/Warsaw pact countries tried to move from district to direct gas, or small CCGT plants (as in one for about 10000 people) exactly for this reason: maintenance is hell and losses are enormous. And that's in high-density urban. In low-density suburbs it won't ever fly.
- ncmncm 4y ago
  I like how you are thinking. Trick is to force them all to make the change.