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Why does reddit get a pass? The shooter was posting on reddit until the day of the shooting. He posted about tactical gear and ammo, which were actually relevan

Why does reddit get a pass? The shooter was posting on reddit until the day of the shooting. He posted about tactical gear and ammo, which were actually relevant to the execution of the attack.

ziml77 4y ago
Who said there's any pass? From the AG press release: > Specifically, the investigations will focus on those platforms that may have been used to stream, promote, or plan the event, including but not limited to Twitch (owned by Amazon), 4chan, 8chan, and Discord.
- shitlord 4y ago
  Sure, but why isn't it being called out explicitly? Twitch was used to stream the event, 4chan/8chan/Discord were likely used to promote the event, and reddit was likely used to plan it. His post history suggests he used the site to obtain tactical gear [0], so it probably played a more important role than Twitch (a streaming site which is interchangeable with its competitors). https://camas.unddit.com/#{%22author%22:%22Jimbo-boiii%22,%22resultSize%22:100} https://camas.unddit.com/#{%22author%22:%22Jimbo-boiii%22,%2...
  - drusenko 4y ago
    The answer is probably shockingly simple: because the AG’s office likely wasn’t aware of the Reddit behavior when they issued the press release.
- Caput-mortuum 4y ago
  If we are to believe the shooter's manifesto; he heavily used Reddit and was a relatively new user of 4chan, which he initially browsed due to boredom when he heard about it having a board about firearms (something he obsessively posted about on Reddit) called '/k/' and a board about the outdoors called '/out/.' He then found a board about politics called '/pol/' which lead him to discover full fledged hardcore neo-nazi websites which promote violence, sites which he lists. These being; "The Daily Stormer," "World Truth Videos," and "Daily Archives." After this point he says he started agreeing with these distorted world views. I believe the concern is that by focusing only on the platforms he used to "stream, promote, or plan the event" the probe is effectively neutered and won't lead to real change. It appears that the three neo-nazi websites he discovered through messages on the /pol/ board of 4chan are the most culpable in his radicalization, but these three key sites that hold this culpability are not mentioned as being targets of the probe. Also in his manifesto the 8chan link appears to go to a real working website called 8chan, but it is not the url of the actual 8chan website according to a quick google search. This leads to even more questions too, like why did they not mention if they would also probe police conduct when they allowed him to have firearms. Despite him making a shooting threat that was investigated prior?
  - mr_toad 4y ago
    > why did they not mention if they would also probe police conduct when they allowed him to have firearms The NRA has lobbyists and 4chan doesn’t.
  - parineum 4y ago
    He was a reddit user for a long time pre-radicalizatiin. Then he went to /pol/ and became radicalized sometime after. He had to leave reddit to find the material that radicalized him.
twirlock 4y ago

Why does reddit get a pass? The shooter was posting on reddit until the day of the shooting. He posted about tactical gear and ammo, which were actually relevant to the execution of the attack.

ziml77 4y ago

Who said there's any pass? From the AG press release: > Specifically, the investigations will focus on those platforms that may have been used to stream, promote, or plan the event, including but not limited to Twitch (owned by Amazon), 4chan, 8chan, and Discord.

shitlord 4y ago
Sure, but why isn't it being called out explicitly? Twitch was used to stream the event, 4chan/8chan/Discord were likely used to promote the event, and reddit was likely used to plan it. His post history suggests he used the site to obtain tactical gear [0], so it probably played a more important role than Twitch (a streaming site which is interchangeable with its competitors). https://camas.unddit.com/#{%22author%22:%22Jimbo-boiii%22,%22resultSize%22:100} https://camas.unddit.com/#{%22author%22:%22Jimbo-boiii%22,%2...
- drusenko 4y ago
  The answer is probably shockingly simple: because the AG’s office likely wasn’t aware of the Reddit behavior when they issued the press release.
Caput-mortuum 4y ago
If we are to believe the shooter's manifesto; he heavily used Reddit and was a relatively new user of 4chan, which he initially browsed due to boredom when he heard about it having a board about firearms (something he obsessively posted about on Reddit) called '/k/' and a board about the outdoors called '/out/.' He then found a board about politics called '/pol/' which lead him to discover full fledged hardcore neo-nazi websites which promote violence, sites which he lists. These being; "The Daily Stormer," "World Truth Videos," and "Daily Archives." After this point he says he started agreeing with these distorted world views. I believe the concern is that by focusing only on the platforms he used to "stream, promote, or plan the event" the probe is effectively neutered and won't lead to real change. It appears that the three neo-nazi websites he discovered through messages on the /pol/ board of 4chan are the most culpable in his radicalization, but these three key sites that hold this culpability are not mentioned as being targets of the probe. Also in his manifesto the 8chan link appears to go to a real working website called 8chan, but it is not the url of the actual 8chan website according to a quick google search. This leads to even more questions too, like why did they not mention if they would also probe police conduct when they allowed him to have firearms. Despite him making a shooting threat that was investigated prior?
- mr_toad 4y ago
  > why did they not mention if they would also probe police conduct when they allowed him to have firearms The NRA has lobbyists and 4chan doesn’t.
- parineum 4y ago
  He was a reddit user for a long time pre-radicalizatiin. Then he went to /pol/ and became radicalized sometime after. He had to leave reddit to find the material that radicalized him.

twirlock 4y ago