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Musk: I'll vote Republicans, the Democrats become the party of division and hate

14 points by donsupreme 4y ago

LeoPanthera 4y ago
Ignoring for the moment that the Democrats are obviously not the party of division and hate, the Republicans certainly have very little interest in electrification, and are still pro-coal, oil, and other fossil fuels. If I was a Tesla board member or shareholder I’d be pretty angry right now. I wonder if he’s suffering from some kind of mental or emotional problems.
- manuelabeledo 4y ago
  > I wonder if he’s suffering from some kind of mental or emotional problems. I highly doubt it. Musk has always been this petty.
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- tamaharbor 4y ago
  Ps. Democrats are indeed the party of division and hate. (Ref: Hillary Clinton’s deplorable comments, Biden’s recent Maga comments, etc.)
  - quantified 4y ago
    And Romney's 47%? Most Trumpisms? Boebert, Gaetz, Cawthorne? Maybe this is like counting different infinities, but there was no unifying during 45. It's also important to distinguish between a figurehead and the party. Republicans are not yet all Trump, though suprisingly far, while very little of the Democratic party is Biden. They're just not that organized.
    - MrMan 4y ago
      biden is not a hateful or divisive guy he maintains long-term relationships with a lot of republican colleagues from the senate
ggm 4y ago
Good on him for being prepared to be this overt about his underlying political philosophy. Now, let's make sure the contradictory outcomes of his politics and his financial acumen come to the fore. Republican federal politics won't ultimately help him, in terms of his bottom line.
- TechBro8615 4y ago
  The outcomes are only contradictory if you interpret them as such. As for me, I don’t believe a person’s choice of vote, between at most two viable parties, is sufficient evidence for classifying their moral beliefs – certainly not to the extent that I can recognize them as contradictory to their actions.
  - ggm 4y ago
    Who brought morals to the table? I'm not interested in his morals, I'm interested in the effect the PR about his voting intentions has on the wider vote, and the economy worldwide. His current worldwide sell is buttressed by interventionist public policy to promote EV, and state backed investment in corporate space exploration. The one exception I'll make there is starlink, which appears to me to be designed to bootstrap business which steals the lunch of a lot of ground-technology communications businesses. Do you honestly think the Republican policy for capital investment and tax necessarily favours his core businesses in Cars and Space? I don't personally think so, short term. Long term, when the current cohort of Republican leaders are dead, who knows? It's not the party of Lincoln right now, and I'm focussed on Musk, and the economy right now: I don't think Republicans like Californian EV market interventions, or the disruption to the telecommunications sector. But I could be wrong.
avgcorrection 4y ago
It matters very little what wealthy influential people vote for. Even considering the fact that they can influence others to vote likewise (or the opposite). Wealth matters more.
- quantified 4y ago
  He only has one vote. It's a bit of a troll, because voting is private. Unless Texas makes you declare a party to vote in a primary and he cares. Even then, he could vote so as to troll the party.
encryptluks2 4y ago
Tesla is going to tank so hard. The people buying Teslas were wealthy Democrats who thought Musk cared about the environment. Half (maybe more) of the GOP doesn't even care about environmental issues. This is political positioning on his part to get ahead of elections and try to align with the party he thinks will win. Now watch as he starts pandering towards the GOP regarding his failed Twitter acquisition.
- wanderer_ 4y ago
  You might be surprised how little people actually regard the owner's political opinion of the miltibillion dollar corporation from which they just bought a quarter-million dollar car. I wouldn't even be surprised if a significant percentage of Tesla owners don't even know who owns the company.
  - penneyd 4y ago
    250k Tesla? The top of the range Plaid is ~130k
    - wanderer_ 4y ago
      Okay, serious overestimation. All of these prices are so far out of my budget that I don't make any distinction :)
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      - quantified 4y ago
        They are rich people things. I would say toys but they seem better than that. I'll take the elecric Humvee over a Tesla any day with my pretend momey.
  - quantified 4y ago
    Musk's face is everywhere. Let's do the science to be sure.
jstx1 4y ago
Is this somehow related to Tesla being taken out of the S&P ESG index? Seems like it from his timeline but at the same time I'm not seeing a connection between the two.
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rdtwo 4y ago
I’m left leaning but I’ve been forced to vote Republican because democrats only try to protect rights when they aren’t in power. Once you elect then to be majority then there is nobody left to fight for your rights because they are fat and happy and to lazy to defend what they supposedly stand for.

14 points by donsupreme 4y ago

Ignoring for the moment that the Democrats are obviously not the party of division and hate, the Republicans certainly have very little interest in electrification, and are still pro-coal, oil, and other fossil fuels. If I was a Tesla board member or shareholder I’d be pretty angry right now. I wonder if he’s suffering from some kind of mental or emotional problems.

manuelabeledo 4y ago
> I wonder if he’s suffering from some kind of mental or emotional problems. I highly doubt it. Musk has always been this petty.
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tamaharbor 4y ago
Ps. Democrats are indeed the party of division and hate. (Ref: Hillary Clinton’s deplorable comments, Biden’s recent Maga comments, etc.)
- quantified 4y ago
  And Romney's 47%? Most Trumpisms? Boebert, Gaetz, Cawthorne? Maybe this is like counting different infinities, but there was no unifying during 45. It's also important to distinguish between a figurehead and the party. Republicans are not yet all Trump, though suprisingly far, while very little of the Democratic party is Biden. They're just not that organized.
  - MrMan 4y ago
    biden is not a hateful or divisive guy he maintains long-term relationships with a lot of republican colleagues from the senate

ggm 4y ago

Good on him for being prepared to be this overt about his underlying political philosophy. Now, let's make sure the contradictory outcomes of his politics and his financial acumen come to the fore. Republican federal politics won't ultimately help him, in terms of his bottom line.

TechBro8615 4y ago
The outcomes are only contradictory if you interpret them as such. As for me, I don’t believe a person’s choice of vote, between at most two viable parties, is sufficient evidence for classifying their moral beliefs – certainly not to the extent that I can recognize them as contradictory to their actions.
- ggm 4y ago
  Who brought morals to the table? I'm not interested in his morals, I'm interested in the effect the PR about his voting intentions has on the wider vote, and the economy worldwide. His current worldwide sell is buttressed by interventionist public policy to promote EV, and state backed investment in corporate space exploration. The one exception I'll make there is starlink, which appears to me to be designed to bootstrap business which steals the lunch of a lot of ground-technology communications businesses. Do you honestly think the Republican policy for capital investment and tax necessarily favours his core businesses in Cars and Space? I don't personally think so, short term. Long term, when the current cohort of Republican leaders are dead, who knows? It's not the party of Lincoln right now, and I'm focussed on Musk, and the economy right now: I don't think Republicans like Californian EV market interventions, or the disruption to the telecommunications sector. But I could be wrong.

avgcorrection 4y ago

It matters very little what wealthy influential people vote for. Even considering the fact that they can influence others to vote likewise (or the opposite). Wealth matters more.

quantified 4y ago
He only has one vote. It's a bit of a troll, because voting is private. Unless Texas makes you declare a party to vote in a primary and he cares. Even then, he could vote so as to troll the party.

encryptluks2 4y ago

Tesla is going to tank so hard. The people buying Teslas were wealthy Democrats who thought Musk cared about the environment. Half (maybe more) of the GOP doesn't even care about environmental issues. This is political positioning on his part to get ahead of elections and try to align with the party he thinks will win. Now watch as he starts pandering towards the GOP regarding his failed Twitter acquisition.

wanderer_ 4y ago
You might be surprised how little people actually regard the owner's political opinion of the miltibillion dollar corporation from which they just bought a quarter-million dollar car. I wouldn't even be surprised if a significant percentage of Tesla owners don't even know who owns the company.
- penneyd 4y ago
  250k Tesla? The top of the range Plaid is ~130k
  - wanderer_ 4y ago
    Okay, serious overestimation. All of these prices are so far out of my budget that I don't make any distinction :)
    - deleted 4y ago
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    - quantified 4y ago
      They are rich people things. I would say toys but they seem better than that. I'll take the elecric Humvee over a Tesla any day with my pretend momey.
- quantified 4y ago
  Musk's face is everywhere. Let's do the science to be sure.

jstx1 4y ago

Is this somehow related to Tesla being taken out of the S&P ESG index? Seems like it from his timeline but at the same time I'm not seeing a connection between the two.

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rdtwo 4y ago

I’m left leaning but I’ve been forced to vote Republican because democrats only try to protect rights when they aren’t in power. Once you elect then to be majority then there is nobody left to fight for your rights because they are fat and happy and to lazy to defend what they supposedly stand for.